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Some apartments questions

Discussion in 'Housing' started by OLD NICK, May 26, 2014.

  1. OLD NICK

    OLD NICK Member

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    I red a lot of posts about apartments, some old some new, but still have some questions, and better to be on the "good" side and ask insted of doing somethin "bad" :)
    so here are the questions:

    1. How I can buy apartment on Ark?
    (sending message to A-Team or MA, or buy from other players ... or ...)

    2. How much is the average price for one apartment?
    (I know that it depends on location and how far is from tp and so on ... but just average ... somethink like ... lets say from 400 to 800 peds or somethink like this ...)

    3. Is there any taxes when you have one apartment?
    (like you must pay every month or week some peds to keep it or ... it is yours and you can use it no matter what)

    4. Can two players own one apartment?
    (I mean is there an option that you can let other players to put/pick stuff in the apartment .... or manage it ... or it is only the owner)

    Thank you in advance!

    With best regards
    OLD NICK
     
  2. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    1) from other players only at this time.

    2) I would guess based on what I seen 600-700+ for a basic one in Celeste Harbour, just to give you an idea then location etc.. as usual

    3) no taxes like rent anymore, so once you bought it you don't need to pay to use it

    4) no, you need to trade the deed to your friend first then, but you can do that with the apartment full with furniture if you like too
     
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  3. OLD NICK

    OLD NICK Member

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    Thank you for the quick answer and for the info!
     
  4. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    To clarify #4, its the last person who's claimed the apartment who has the ability to drop and pick up stuff, it does not matter who actually holds the deed. (You do, however, need the deed in your possession to do the actual claiming but after that the deed can be traded). It's a little confusing, and don't trade your deed to someone you don't trust without appropriate collateral.

    In other words, no, an apartment can't be managed by 2 people at the same time, but yes, it's possible for the deed owner to allow someone else to manage an apartment (it requires trading them the deed, having them claim it, then trading the deed back).
     
  5. mastermesh

    mastermesh Active Member

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    on the taxes question... yes, no taxes, but that's determined by planet partner, so at some point in the future A-team may decide to turn that option on again? Doubt it'd happen but it could theoretically.

    Also on taxes question, if you put shopkeeper in an apartment it can sell things for you there to others if you have the apartment set to not be private or whatever... but shopkeeper decays something like 10 pec per sale, and your buyers using that shopkeeper DO pay taxes above the price you set, depending on what the LA tax is for the place that the apartment is setting on.... I suspect that most places that buildings are on on Ark are 'owned' by the dev team instead of a participant, so the 'taxes' from shop and shopkeeper sales go to planet partner, much like the way that they go to Calypso planet partner if you buy an apartment shop on Calypso at a place like Omegaton or Sakura that are 'owned' by the planet partner, etc. On places like Medusa Head on Calypso, where the LA is owned by another participant, the taxes go to the other participant. I don't think anyone owns the 'deed' to Celeste Harbor itself so the Planet Partner is the default 'owner' that gets the taxes ,etc.

    Its been a while since I ran an apartment or shop, but I think one thing you CAN possibly do is hold the deed, set the place to 'private' and then add another avatar to 'guest list' so basically you and the guest are only avatars that can enter. I never tried it before, but I suspect that you can use that type of thing to allow the 'guest' to buy things from your shopkeeper in the apartment and that sort of setup won't allow any other avatars to go in there and buy from that shopkeeper... you'd have to try to test it to verify if that works, but I think that's how it works. Makes for an interesting way to set up a business if you 'supply' a certain thing to only one individual who sort of is a monopoly on that for you in who the distribute stuff to in person to person sales, etc. Really interesting potential if you own rare blueprints, smuggle in rare items from other planets that they sell to others on the planet where the apartment is, etc. Guests don't 'own' the place but should be able to access it I think, so you won't have to hand over the deed in a situation like that.
     
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  6. Snape

    Snape Master of the BanHammer Staff Member PAF Administrator

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    Thats very handy info Mastermesh. Might come in very handy!
     
  7. Ellington Corp

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    Curious as to the apartments that I find that no one owns, says (I Think) Arkadia Real Estate Management or something along those lines! How do we purchase those or are they only being released every now and then?

    Thanks
     
  8. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    If an apartment is owned by the Arkadia estate broker then it means it has never been released for sale. Word on the street is that if we get more players on Ark, more of those shops and apartments can be released. Arkadia normally releases new estates via auction.
     
  9. Snape

    Snape Master of the BanHammer Staff Member PAF Administrator

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    they get released on a predetermined reference point...be that planetary population or what, we don't know
     
  10. Ellington Corp

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    Awesome sounds good guys! Yeah I see the same thing with shops as well! I hope they do release a batch in the near future and Arkadia grows!
     
  11. mastermesh

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    not necessarily true... well sort of... If an apartment deed is purchased but never claimed it still shows the estate broker on the estate terminal... so really unless the A team is more willing to give out numbers than the Caly team, it's unknown at this point in time exactly how many apartments actually have not been sold that exist in game at this time. Back on Caly there's an entire floor of a mall that the mall owner holds the deeds to but never claimed. I think there's also a ton of apartments out there like that... so it's really a speculation game because the developers don't seem to be willing to allow potential real estate buyers to have a really good idea of exactly how many estates really are not sold yet... at least in the real world you can go to a government office to figure out who owns what place, not so in game since the estate terminal only shows you who claimed the place, not who actually holds the deed.
     
  12. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    There's nothing really mysterious. All estates on Arkadia were sold via auction with start bids and no buyouts (except Sanc Cove which is owned by Hawkwing). Anyone who cared about such things could easily track which items were sold and even who they were bought by. I don't recall any estates being offered that were not purchased. The estates that have yet to be offered are:


    • buildings 1 and 6-12 at Sanc Cove (as I understand it, Hawkwing "owns" these but the deeds haven't yet been released to him by MA)
    • the 12 underground booths
    • booths 7 and 8 at the quarry
    • 4 shops at Celeste Island
    • 7 shops at Celeste South and I think some apartments there as well
    • all shops and apartments at valiant
    • booths 2-4 at Celeste Harbor
     

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