This is a personal opinion thread I want to know your honest opinions on the Lootable pvp zones are. So mods if you don’t want this kind of thread then I understand just delete it. Remember we are a game of many players doing many things in the EU for one reason or another. So if you have an opinion on the issue chim in, not just a well I don’t like it boooo hoooo they are all thief’s. But rather give us a reason why you do or do not like it. I will start this show off. SPACE PVP Problem: As everyone knows I’m not a fan of lootable PVP at all not in the slightest but I do give dibs on some pvp players let me explain. Firstly I hate that you are forced to enter lootable space just to go from one place to another. This to me is like saying hear I have a gold coin that is priceless and you can have it for free but…… you must first travel through hell and back again before you can have it. Which is impossible, Space pvp is just that if you survive the first attack you still have many more to come why? Because, the pirate who just had his butt handed to him is now on skype/vent/mumble or what other game talk system they use to telling his buddies that you are partly dead and which direction you are heading. This works why you just beat a pirate and now you are on a time limit do you stop to repair your ship or do you try to pull a NINJA move and sneak quietly by? Well you continue because you will waste time trying to heal your ship because they know if you do that there is limited places where you can go to do it. So if you stop you are surely dead. Any idiot can sit at a space station and wait for a person to leave a planet and follow them and shoot them down my monkey headed brother and son do it to each other all the time not looting anyone just space battling each other(sometimes you just can’t fix stupid). So being a pirate might take some aim skills but a lot have found cheats to help them along, not all but a lot, I personally have heard and seen a the speed cheat where they catch up with you faster. So space piracy has no respect in my book, no not even a little. One Solution is this: Space should have a free from lootable PVP zone--- like the ones that surround the SS. It could be a safe zone for a quad/MS/sleipnir/privateer or what other ships will come in the future. This travel zone is a place where you are not able to get looted or shot down. I’m not saying a straight line from point A to point B but rather a wiggly one that will make the player stay at the helm while traveling from planet to planet and if you go outside of that free zone you can get looted. Make it a longer trip and a trip where the pilot will have to stay at the helm and not go afk. Or take a warp service for a fast and fun trip. This will do 2 things: 1. It makes the pirates do what real pirates of the old had to do and go out and hunt for their bounty not just sit at a port (SS) 99% of their time and shoot those coming and going. If they did that they would surely be caught and put to death. (*In general it is funny how many pirates cry when shot down by a mothership or when they get team tagged and killed) 2. Will allow even trade throughout the entirety of the EU and a place where players can explore the space aspect of the game. Yes there is trade now but it could be more productive of a trade if there was an actual safe trade route. LAND PVPNow here is an interesting thing land pvp, I will say again I DONOT agree with pvp but this one is a bear of a different color, meaning you have the option to enter it or not. This is different than space because space is a forced pvp zone no way around it if you want to go from planet to planet to enjoy the whole game. Whereas land pvp is and optional pvp zone, if I want to get to the other side of a land pvp you could fly/walk around it/ skip to my Lou my daisys threw it (TPING) or just simply avoid it by not getting the 5 ped shot it takes to go in. Land pvp It is not a forced PVP zone like space. No more are the days of interplanetary tping for 30 ped it’s all forced lootable pvp. So with that being said I give the PKer’s, “true PKer’s” not pirate PKer’s those who moon light as PKer’s and do piracy full time. But true pker’s I have a bit of respect for, and I’m not talking about those so called pker who use the noob tubes (grenade launchers) but pker who actually have guns they shoot you with pk guns. Any idiot can get a noob tube and go pk people heck I do it on mobs to help me complete my missions faster. Yes there are differences in pking and noob tubing it. Problem: I do not agree with some rare ores only being found in lootable pvp4 why you ask? What if you global, hof or for heaven’s sake ATH on it then not only will the PKer’s know but the scallywag pirates will too. Then the next thing you know they are out searching in troves for a tower or something, if they happen to luck up on it then you are surely dead or they will camp the tower until you come to try to pull it then when you pull it pow dead and lost loot. Some will say they can’t camp it 24/7 but yes they can how many members do you think some PK soc have and even more so how many pirate soc do you think there are, with member in all parts of the world in various time zones? This gives I feel gives the pirate/pker (there is really no difference mostly) an unfair advantage because they know you are in a pvp area hence the hunt is on. Also if a pker works the pvp area a lot they will know better where to look depending on the ore. One Solution: Have the PVP4 loot able to drop in ALL areas not just the pvp4 areas, have a silent hof,ATH for the pvp4 ores, or even better have a non lootable bubble around the claim (like when you tp into an area) until you are able to pull your claim. Like I said not a global but like the hof or ATH because those can take some time to claim hence giving them time to find it and camp it. They cried about vehicles in pvp because you could recall it, so they took that away but I also had some fly around jump out and hit you with a launcher before you can know what is happening. So losing the vehicle thing is a plus and negative. *note* this is just my personal opinion & I would love to know what everyone else has to say, explain why you think the way you do. And most of all lets be civil to one another, we all have different opinions and it would be great to respect that. You might not like my opinion and that’s fine so let’s hear what yours is without trying to bash anyone.