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Weapons Manufacturing Economy

Discussion in 'Crafting' started by CLERIC, Aug 14, 2011.

  1. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Kiki you just made that disdain list with a bullet. Just because YOU kiki fit into the profile that I DO have disdain for as you put it does in no way grant permission to state what my personal feelings are twords some one. I dont target anyone until they do like you just did by telling people something you know nothing about like how I personally feel about the community. I love the community. Its button pushing manipulating people like you that get me fired up and now that you did that and want the spot light you will get it.

    So now that you have my undivided attention lets go...stop pussy footin around the bush trying to make yourself look like a saint of EU..Time to get down and dirty. Anything about me you think you know bring it to light with your "proof" and when that is done we will turn the tables for your fair share.

    And yes now this YOU IS directed straight at you Kikijikki.
     
  2. Snape

    Snape Master of the BanHammer Staff Member PAF Administrator

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    Woh guys take it easy please and don't start making this personal or I'll shut the thread very quickly.

    You both have your points of view and have stated them with equal opportunity so please just leave it at that and let others draw whatever conclusion they wish to from the available information. If you two want to continue your argument then do it in PM because if this gets out of hand I'm going to start deleting posts.

    Also, Bill, I would appreciate it if you could edit your post above and tone it down a bit. I understand you're having your buttons pushed but that doesn't mean you have to respond that way you have.
     
  3. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Oh boy, looks like I got myself into a personal dispute. I don't do those. Probably best thing is if I stop reading your posts, then they won't bug me. Should be a button around for that somewhere...

    See ya.
     
  4. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Back on topic...

    I just crafted a few of my more expensive bps (ark-20 various types) and I found its not the ingrediant MU which is killing me but my skill lvl and the bp quallity requiring those extra clicks for a success. At my current skill level (if the number of clicks for success was typical) then I cant really expect to sell at a price that will break even. I just have to look at it as the cost of skill gain and QR improvement.

    Keeping in mind that the number of clicks required can vary wildly, I only crafted one of each and looked at the costs to craft each one. I found that the MU cost of construction was between 110% of TT cost. This despite many individual ingrediants having MU of 130-160%. Use of residue really brings cost down because it is quite cheap compared to other ingrediants.

    So my lessons learned are,
    while I would like resource MU to go down, its not a significant cost factor for me
    always add in residue to craft for full TT
    things will get better as I improve
     
  5. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    There is an "add to ignore list " button on everyone's profile page. Can be very useful for those members who like to push your buttons.

    On Topic: do L BPs increase their QR faster than UL BPs? And how long does a BP like the ark-20s take before it reaches a good QR? I'm guessing it doesn't take thousands and thousands of clicks like a low level component bp does. Right?
     
  6. harmony

    harmony Active Member Pro Users

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    Limited blueprints have a higher maximum chance of succes rate then unlimited blueprints. Your maximum chance of succes will be reached after you finished your SIB-period (5 profession levels higher then when you start your SIB).

    When crafting guns i really must recommand never to click a blueprint you still have SIB on. It's better to skill a bit more first (for example with cheap components/texture blueprints or with vehicle repairing), or to buy some skills.

    Crafting weapons when you don't have the skills, can be VERY expensive.
     
  7. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I have SIB on those BPs but looks like there is a big difference in chance of success between just being at start of sib range and having it maxed.
     
  8. Chuck Jarrdhead Wholrey

    Chuck Jarrdhead Wholrey Active Member

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    (L) BP's do not have a QR, only a attempts remaining counter, and a success rate bar

    The QR of a high lvl weapons BP, is just as tough to raise as low lvl BP's. Since you will run less clicks of a high lvl bp, it will stay a lower QR for a long time

    so for good success rates figure a 3x to 5x skill, above the BP lvl

    crafting is a grind.... really quite simple in comparison to many other games though..... there is only 1 mat called lysterium, and its values don't change. in some games there are grades of mats, useful for for certain things <low grade ores for buildings, high grade for armor and weapons>.... like the days of Star Wars Galaxies...
     
  9. Boardian Chilix

    Boardian Chilix Active Member Pro Users

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    Once you ended the SIb period is not reason to wait longer as you will not increase the Cos anymore unless you increase the qr, so to have maxed the bp by skills you need +5 more levels the start of sib to reach 81 cos which is the maximun for a qr1 bp
    Took note on some bps and their different Qr & Cos all in maxed skilled bps

    Qr on Maxed Skills Cos
    1 81
    6,8 83
    9,7 84
    12,7 85
    17,4 86
    24,3 87
    28,5 87
    31 88
    36,1 88
    43,8 89
    51 90
    57,6 91
    65,4 92
    76,8 93
    80,4 93
    91,3 94
    100 94