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WARNING: DO NOT BUY OR RUN A GOLDEN KEY

Discussion in 'Instances' started by naverith, Jan 23, 2016.

  1. naverith

    naverith Member

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    The Golden Key has been nerfed. If you make the mistake of buying one (as I did), you'll be lucky to get the TT value back after you run it.

    I traded my DOA Strikehammer (worth about 9,500 PEDS), because of all the publicity of how great this special and expensive instance was, and the run barely gave me back 1100 PEDS worth of crap.

    There's been a dozen or more of these ran in the past few months and they were all barely returned TT value of the key. I did 15 of the Level 10 key runs and the return was the same from running a Golden Key.

    DO NOT BUY A GOLDEN KEY until the devo's FIX THE DAMN THING!
     
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  2. San

    San Well-Known Member

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    Trading an asset for a chance was... not wise.
     
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  3. Wauspaus

    Wauspaus Active Member

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    Could you be more specific about what the drops were?
     
  4. Chuck Jarrdhead Wholrey

    Chuck Jarrdhead Wholrey Active Member

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    I'm sorry to hear about your luck in the key. Whoever traded you the key for the gun saw you coming a mile away, and I would never deal with them again.

    As far as the return of the golden key goes, it has not been right since two events ago, really none of them have been. I have not been running or selling any of my stock of keys for a long time. I had used to run a key 10 a day looking for a codex, but the viability of the runs was never there, so I had to stop. Since the Keys were not "right" i stopped selling them as well. MA is in charge of the drop rates and loots of any mob and instance, the PP only places items that can drop on a list. MA will never let Caly come in #2 to a great planet like Arkadia, so we see constant nerfs to make sure Caly stays on top. It is a set pattern that shows, and has been for a long time.

    If you choose to do anything in game, ask 10 people, get 15 answers, and try to do what works best for you, your equipment / exp level, and your ped card abilities. ALWAYS ask questions! If some fast talking mama has something too good to be true for sale, DON'T buy it.

    If someone wants to sell you a 1 million ped amp since it saves peds and will make you money guaranteed... its a scam, since if it was that good, they would never part with it. Same goes for anything people will dump on you in a quick flip. Just be careful and don't place all of your bets on the same number.

    Goodluck,
    Chuck
     
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  5. atomicstorm

    atomicstorm Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    I ran two, I reported that the golden keys were bogus.. it just drops golden key parts.. it has only one time dropped a dark knight armor piece. There have been 2 dozen keys run since then, and all worthless.

    I told people, i warned people.. I wish I had known you were buying one. But yes, you are correct. Unless you are really lucky or you get a dna part (we got the rare magurg and rare ubo piece).. you just more parts to try it again.

    Shame really. I know Ark team do not want it to be like this.

    On a side note, solo keys are the only keys that will get you back your TT return. Team instances always give 55-75% TT. Giving the ammo at the start does not count but that only improves it to the regular 72-82% we had previously.

    The golden keys, in their current state, are worth no more than 2000 PED.
     
  6. naverith

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    Yup. I've talked to guys who, in total, have ran 12 GKs in the past few months.

    CRAP RETURNS. Not even a question: it's totally nerfed.

    Anyone who sells the GK for more than a few PEDS over cost to make is a scammer, anyone who runs a GK (and I include myself in this) is an idiot.

    Not wasting my time on Ark 'til this nerfdom gets it's act together.
     
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  7. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    No need to throw scammer labels around Naverith. I don't have bp for gold keys, but if I did, I would for sure price them at more than a few ped above cost. Otherwise there is no point risking that much ped to make them.

    Hopefully Ark Devs can sort out this loot issue with MA. There's a few strange happenings in loot lately.
     
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  8. svena

    svena Active Member Pro Users

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    That's part of the problem. My last golden key cost me 12k ped to make. Even now with tt prices on everything but codex (which cost ~1500 ped no matter if you loot or buy) still means a key cost of 4-8k ped depending on just what you get back in partial success.
     
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  9. atomicstorm

    atomicstorm Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    OR it can be like what you've experience and get 6 failures in a row and makes you want to slash your wrists.
     
  10. atomicstorm

    atomicstorm Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Oh I see what you did there... it wasn't 1 million.. it was 600k. I'll give the scammer credit, he could really hook you... shame he bought an la with all those stolen funds.
     
  11. John Black Knight

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    I have tried hard to make a successfull golden key run happen, bought several keys as well as tried crafting them and did all the aakas instances to loot the drops needed.
    After several months of trying hard my results are simple: complete failure - every single crafting click on golden key has failed (5 click blueprint - all fails) and every single run i made was a failure (not a single armor drop).
    I asked halfway through about the nerfed aakas instances and got from someone official told that nothing had been changed and sometimes they would loot bad other times good -> not for me.
    I really would suggest to take that arkadian golden key video from the client loader because it motivates players to get majorily screwed and leaves a very bad taste to experience arkadia. (I know loot is in mindarks hands, but its about time that you admit that these instances have been nerved, considering how many failures are happening in the golden door and on crafting the key the codex chamber should be a common drop to reduce the heavy losses).
     
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  12. SirCuteNShy

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    EVERYBODY knows that the Aakas instances have changed. If an official states otherwise, then he or she is lying.
    In instance 1 - 9, the golden parts drop on almost every single run nowadays. They drop so often that there's hardly any markup left on them. In Aakas 10, the Codex Chamber drops very rarely compared to what it did in the past. If you run the solo version, you'll more likely loot Gears rather than a Codex.

    Looking at Entropialife, both Dune Rider, Sand Stormer and Dark Knight armor parts dropped quite regularly in the golden door until January 2015. Since then, only one armor part has been looted (DK shins, Sept. 2015)

    I find it extremely frustrating and disappointing that the A-team choose to ignore this. For all I know, maybe their hands are tied and there's nothing they can do about it. But pretending everything "works as intended" when facts state otherwise, doesn't put them in a good light. There's no doubt that this situation affects the planet's economy negatively, and I'd be very concerned if I had heavy investments on Arkadia.
     
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    Not nearly as concerned as I am when I see people say "A-team" *shudders* Disgusting.

    Every time I see someone spout that bullshit out of their mouth, I lose massive respect for Arkadia.
    That is not the name of their business. They are Arkadia Studios.
     
  14. Lizzy

    Lizzy Deactivated User

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    This. MindArk are in control of the loot. If the armor parts are not dropping as wished by the Arkadia team, they would have to contact MindArk about it and hope they will change it. It is a real shame that the PP's cannot control what drops when and where.

    This being said, I once loved the idea of running Aakas for a while, hoping to one day make my own golden key(s) and hope to get some nice pieces of either armor sets that could drop in the golden door. MindArk has ruined that now.
     
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  15. slither

    slither Active Member

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    The title to this thread really needs changing. It should say 'WARNING: don't pay 10kped for a 2kped item'

    Of course the instances have changed, that was clear ages ago, so adjust the price you're paying for the golden key.
     
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  16. aValon_52

    aValon_52 New User

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    agreed with slither...... sadly returns from the golden key even are not like they used to be..........

    sorry for all those who overpaid for keys and resources to make em....
     
  17. John Black Knight

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    this info that the prices have changed likely should be included in the video on the client loader, this published video shows comments from cobra about the golden key worth around 12k and sausagefingers mentions a worth of around 10k - so while it is obvious that these values are way off by todays adjusted loot every person new to arkadia who watches that recent video will be given a price 'estimation' for the key from an official game portal. A warning should be included that the key has been rebalanced and should no longer be valued at a multiple of its tt value.

    Nevertheless if creating that key yourself you will still pay around 8k ped doing all the instances to get enough drops to have a reasonable chance at the key and as in my case 8k wont cut it even when not buying the codex chamber.
     
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  18. HaKuRa

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    Any change since then ? Wanted to farm Aakas aswell but when i see all this :) I remember also to run little room like the 1 and get a nice 105ped chest. I know they had take off chest and then put them back, but it wasn't as great as before. But i didn't try many run since then. So is Arkaas worth it again ? Or only the solo runs are fine ?
     

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