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Warning about space travel

Discussion in 'Space' started by Strash, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. Strash

    Strash Member

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    DO NOT WHAT EVER YOU DO TRAVEL DURING BACK UP TIME FOR MINDARK. I HOPE THEY OFFICIALLY RELEASE THIS. But about a week ago or so i was traveling to calypso and i was like i might as well fly my ship into the planet it is cheaper being the price of thrusters. So i see this ship sliepnir mk1 sam bond i believe was his name. anyways I destroy his ship and killed him and looted him was around 34ped of stuff. I found it kinda weird that A. he seemed afk. B. it was armax loot...... i was thinking why would someone come into space with armax loot then go back in? or why didn't they hit the check mark to enter the planet? i just shrugged it off and went on with my life. Well i ran into him today and he told me the story how he was mining/hunting on mino while he all of a sudden died and appeared at the calypso space station being LOOTED.... him being in SAFE GROUND. As i said before i didn't know he was on planet doing such things. and it wasn't much ped and no harm done on either side. BUT IT IS A WARNING to everyone DO NOT TRAVEL IN SPACE during MA back up TIME. I know of one back up time it is 5 MA time and lasts for 5-8min..... SO PLEASE i hope everyone READS this and i hope MA fixes this ISSUE... cause this is the worst bug i have ever seen.... someone playing on planet just enjoying there time then all of a sudden being looted....... without being in that area at all.



    Anyways GL TO ALL of you AND PLEASE SPREAD THIS WARNING AROUND.
    Thanks


    ALso to add to this when you hit a PLANET IT IS BEST TO RELOG on PLANET SURFACE to ASSURE your on the planet SERVER and not TRAPPED IN SPACE
     
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  2. Stagger

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    i can't confirm this story,

    yet if it's true i agree it has to be fixed.
    will tell my customers that they might need to relog after landing.
     
  3. Mischief

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    Being a bit lazy so I copy-and-past my response to this that I made on another forum on the same subject, well, the very same post in fact. Feel free to discuss. :)

    "By the way you describe it I will most certainly fly around in space during back-up. Or I would if I were into pirating.

    Seems being in space is safe, but from what you write it's being anywhere else that is the hazard.

    "-I was minding my business hunting at Mino when all of a sudden I end up revived at Caly SS, looted!"

    So MA has this bug that when in back-up mode puts people in their spacecraft and sends them into the PVP zone outside Calypso?

    No way, There's just to many parameters involved for that to happen just like that.

    The guy must have dozed off and served you that story to make you feel bad, hoping you would return the loot.

    Big question is, did it work? Did you give him his loot back? ;)
    "
     
  4. Strash

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    first of all the person hit planet around the backup time..... this 'created' a copy of his avatar which was stuck on server of space.
    for some reason this copy could be looted with the stuff he received while hunting/mining. which no he didn't ask for it back nor did i give the loot back..... and we both understood it wasn't a big deal i just will have to let him become a friendly in lootable zones from now on. but that's not the issue the issue is that this does occur and it can occur in space which it is so massive and has alot of lootable areas thus be dangerous.
    Point of the story is make sure you relog when you hit planet if you FLY IN i am sure teleport is ok but to be safe now i relog when i hit planet.
    i think everyone should do the same till this manor is fixed.
     
  5. Fopsie

    Fopsie Active Member Pro Users

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    Intresting. Will do a bit of investigating into this
     
  6. Lee DeLioncourt

    Lee DeLioncourt Arkadian Outrider Platinum Member

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    Since it appears that the problem may be your location not being corrected after you land on a planet from space, I'm moving this thread to the space section. Hopefully someone such as the person OP spoke with has filed a bug report.
     
  7. Mischief

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    Please do that.
    I still don't believe this can happen the way it is described. But if it is true and possible then it's serious. :)
     
  8. Strash

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    Well if you guys like to Look on the planet calypso Forum sam bond responded to that thread and has proven it is REAL and IT IS SERIOUS i would NOT PUT BULL CRAP into the community I WANT TO HELP and inform the COMMUNITY..
     
  9. Strash

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    people like you mischief really don't make me wanna post this serious stuff here or anywhere and let the community suffer you should really check yourself and show a little respect to some people.
    I have never done anything on forums in a negative way or towards this game only did things to inspire and help people.
     
  10. Lee DeLioncourt

    Lee DeLioncourt Arkadian Outrider Platinum Member

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    Let's cool it down a notch please guys. Yes, thanks Strash for sharing the information, whether or not it is 'real' is up to the individuals who may have experienced it directly and of course support, where again hopefully someone who has experienced it has filed a support case.
     
  11. Strash

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    yes me and the other person filed support case if you look on planet claypso forum he posted the chat log there too.
     
  12. Pauhe Gunor

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    curious did you return the Peds? ;p
     
  13. Fopsie

    Fopsie Active Member Pro Users

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    Strash I dont think Mischief ment any disrespect in any of hist posts. I also don't believe it was actualy a bug like this because of the probability of this happening and that there has been no known cases of copied avatars or avatars being in 2 places at the same time.
    There is a realy slim chance that this may be possible so Im not saying that its impossible only improbable.

    Ether way thanks for the heads up about this.
     
  14. Strash

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    the issue is not the ped. forget about the ped. The issue is if this is occurring and since Thrusters = so cheap now people will be using planet flight more often WHICH means there is a higher DEGREE of this occurring again if people Fly during Ma back up time. NOW if no one knows about this bug then people could get hurt. The person could of been re-arranging his storage and bam it's all gone.
     
  15. Fopsie

    Fopsie Active Member Pro Users

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    I don't think its backup related because a backup is a offline coppie of something and will not be loaded into active memory. This may be more loading related like those avatars you sometimes get haning around charging thier TP chips after their player has TPied away already.
     
  16. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    Actually, I have encountered something like this during the migration when the TP kept going haywire in Twins. I saw an avatar in twins who was actually someplace else. The one in Twins was not moving, but it wasn't a complete phantom either. I think I could private chat it, but the details are a little fuzzy. Just checked chat log - it was around or between 05:30 and 05:50, so shortly after backup time.

    Yeah, I agree, it probably doesn't have anything to the backup process making an extra "copy", but to TP/planet arrival lag creating a "ghost" on the old server around backup time.
     
  17. rick_janson

    rick_janson Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Actually, I have... Sometimes in lag spikes tping from Twin Peaks to somewhere else I get a "Could not execute" message at which point I try a different TP... It works, but I still get local and trade chat from Twin Peaks until I relog and end up at the the first TP I tried to go to.

    One time at the Quarry, a new player tried to TP to Taipan Digsite but hit a lag spike and it wouldn't let him TP there. I went over there and clearly saw his avatar standing there with his gun equipped. Went back to Quarry and there he was active and talking. Other witnesses at the quarry could confirm he never left. He had to relog because his avatar was in two places at once.
     
  18. Strash

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    either way what i said happened.
    BE WARNED.
     

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