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Usable UL Brawler weapons please

Discussion in 'Wishlist' started by Jenny ferr, Nov 13, 2010.

  1. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    UL Brawler Weapons
    Hope you dont mind I just copy/pasted the thread I have on the other forums, but this show exactly what I wish for


    There are unlimited version of nearly all other (L) weapons existing today but not a single one for Power Fist weaponry... (latest today a Rainbow sword dropped from Eamon, and a BP for an UL Apis dropped today)

    Power Fists have been seriously left behind in these regen times of our universe, today all old school ul weapons(maxed at lvl 100) are useless due to low dmg/sec (look further down for some numbers)

    And the highest SIB level for Power Fists today begins at level42 even tho both Short blade/Long blade have level66 SIB weapons(see below)
    Not to mention that all the “Genesis Power Claw Mk.1 > 6 (L)” are crafted from (L) blueprints and so far I dont know the resources needed to craft them(if you do please post it here) but I seriously doubt there are even remotely enough of these blueprints out there since on auction history there have only been five “Genesis Power Claw Mk.5(L)” sold ever and those were sold a year ago.

    I dont even mention the Smacker series as those are more or less useless when you can just use tt fist for the same kind of mobs that those can handle....
    And my Castorian EnKnuckles-A(tt fist) tier III are better then Smacker Two (L) with dmg enhancers, 9.6Dmg/Sec(tier II 8.9Dmg/Sec) compared to Smacker Two (L) 8.8Dmg/Sec (if I got the numbers right)


    Below you see some numbers comparing Power Fists to Short blades/Long blades.
    (not counting on eco just damage potential)

    Power Fists:
    Mez-1 EnergyGlove
    Damage:15 HP
    Attacks: 61/min
    Damage/second: 15.3 HP
    Mez-1 EnergyGlove Blueprint (lvl5)

    Omegaton Power Claw Mentor Edition
    (mention this since it's the highest one but not everyone can get it since it's a Mentor Edition)
    Damage: 20 HP
    Attacks: 64/min
    Damage/second: 21.3 HP
    Mentor Edition

    Highest SIB weapon:
    Genesis Power Claw Mk.6 (L)
    Recommended Level: 42 Levels
    (Crafted Mk.1 > Mk.6 are all (L) BPs too)


    Short Blades:
    ClericDagger 3C
    Damage: 45 HP
    Attacks: 75/min
    Damage/second: 56.3 HP
    ClericDagger 3C blueprint (lvl5)

    Highest SIB weapon:
    Genesis Prism Of Destruction (L) (ul existing)
    Recommended Level: 66 Levels
    (Looted)


    Long Blades:
    Katsuichi Determination
    Damage: 70 HP
    Attacks: 45/min
    Damage/second: 52.5 HP
    Katsuichi Determination blueprint (lvl8)

    Highest SIB weapon:
    Genesis Rainbow Sword (L) (ul existing)
    Recommended Level: 66 Levels
    (Looted)

    So my question are when will I loot the first UL Stabber/Cleaver or even some new version to be comparable with Long blades or Short blades?
    or are Power Fists destined to die out?
     
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  2. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Power fists were left out when fun was removed in VU 9.3. Since then we have had the addition of L gear and the using public flocked to the highest sib ranged weapons they could get their hands on. This lead to less and less use of the power fists. The L bp's will only drop if there is need for them. Since the L fist type weapons are either gimp or need incredible levels to use not many follow that path any longer perpetuating the lack of new ones into the market.

    I think if fun is ever introduced back into the game people will use things like this more to change pace from normal routines. Until then the only focus is bang for the pec..not fun per ped.
     
  3. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    If they would drop Power Claw Mk.2 (L) BPs so the mu would come down to the same as breer p5a there as eco as that gun (if I'm not completely mistaken) and you only need lvl18 Brawler to use them and they are maxed at level 23 so not that high.

    Hopefully now with the Eviscerator mission on Calypso the Power Claw Stabber (L) will be easier for me to find when I have the peds, but much more prefer them to introduce new ones and even unL (L).
    But since we now have more then one company creating awesome planets I'm hoping this will be considered by new planet partners right from the start.
    So since we are not on a Calypso forum, lets not discuss how, why or what I or you want on Calypso.

    This thread is just to show the lack of usable brawler weapons and I'm sure this would be awesome to have even on Planet Arkadia and for sure make me seriously thinking of migrating. After all I hope it will be a planet for cool melee fighting too, not just for the weak who are too scared to get into close quarter fighting and only use ranged weaponry ;)
     
  4. Jamira

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    I was sooo proud to be able to use the Rainbow sword a few months ago. But hey! I cannot pay for the L-version (not to speak about the UL-version *roll eyes*). Besides of this there are not enough L-Rainbow-swords for me in auction if I could buy them. Imagine someone else would have an interest in this swords - lol! No way! I went back to my old and beloved Castorian Combat EnBlade-10. I will bring it up to tier 10 wich means 260 dmg max. That's nice for a panic weapon coz it's durability is really low. Conclusion: I will stick with my Determinations for a long time. Although the tiering is very expensive vice versa to the tiering of the EnBlade-10.

    Since we will be at a planet with ancient ruins and will become all archaeoligists, let's get some support to the melee fraction a little bit ;-)
     
  5. David | Arkadia

    David | Arkadia Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator Planet Arkadia Official

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    You guys make some interesting points. Firstly, I promise that melee has not been overlooked!

    If we were to introduce new melee weapons, do you really want our imagination limited to different versions of the same items you are used to? Or would something totally different be more interesting!!!!
     
  6. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Im all for new and exciting things as long as they are functional and rationally made to benefit both you AND us. Again this part falls back on MA sadly enough. Everything sounds so great and exciting till I remember that....but I read another thread and that sadness fades.
     
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    David | Arkadia Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator Planet Arkadia Official

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    You are right that we won't be changing the fundamentals of the game, but there is a lot that we can do at our end to make the planet really interesting and fun to play.
     
  8. Jamira

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    Exactly my thoughts! Not only for melee but in all fields I think.
     
  9. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Dont limit anything, just made this post as I was too lazy to write a totally new one ;)
    And sounds great to hear you thought of us melee users too, and agree what others responded with also :)
     
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    Alot of thoughts have to be put into the creation of new items for different professions while abiding by the current platform capabilities and restrictions. Its really comforting when the team keeps on coming up with improvisations when met with a deadend. Coupled this with the suggestions/ideas that we've seen in the forums, I'm sure you're going to notice that when we launch, noone is forgotten... :eek:
     
  11. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    ... as far as you will be able to strike MA's restrictions, eh? *roll eyes*
     
  13. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Time to bump up this thread a bit ;)
     
  14. Raven Lunchbox

    Raven Lunchbox Adviser Arkadia Adviser

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    bumping for better brawler/melee weapons
     
  15. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Time for another bump, so you dont forget about me and others
     
  16. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Perhaps I am misunderstanding but I am skilling using an UNL Smacker One. http://www.entropedia.info/Info.aspx?chart=Weapon&name=Loughlin_Smacker_One . Is that what you are after?

    Also I am going to offer it for sale on Arkadia soon. Need to get Omegaton Power Claw Mentor Edition maxed first - a little over one lvl to go. Look for a sales thread some time in the next month.
     
  18. narfi

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    We are looking for options above the Power claw mentor edition/smacker3 level. Those are currently the best unlimited brawler weapons available, and they are not capable of killing mid level mobs :/

    narfi
     
  19. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    exactly what narfi said, we need brawler weapon at least in the same class as a power claw stabber(L) or power claw cleaver (L) or any of the Mk.2-Mk.6.

    But since this is Arkadia I want the A-team to speed it up with their own brawler weapons and ofc also do 'smuggler' version of these higher ones capable of defeating lets say Kadra or Kiana at least. And it would ofc be awesome to get one or a few that could take on large Oratans as they get in close pretty quickly or Korwil ;)

    Edit: discussions of other things should be in other threads so removing this part
     
  20. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Ok, thanks for clarifying
     
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