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UNL Piron PBR-15

Discussion in 'Weapons' started by HELLutek, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. HELLutek

    HELLutek New User

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    Hey, just discovered that beauty from Togolossi Mature.
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    Max TT = 175 PED
    Decay = 3.36 per shot (I think I did the math correctly, gonna confirm it next week)

    How much could I get for it? ;)
     
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  2. Kung Fu Munchkin

    Kung Fu Munchkin Member

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    Grats!

    Mod: Maybe move this post to "Discoveries"?
     
  3. T79x

    T79x Adviser Arkadia Adviser

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    Very nice toy
     
  4. WhiningSkeptic

    WhiningSkeptic Active Member

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    Grats!

    If you did the math right, and I also did so, it has a horrible eco. But I'll let someone else run the numbers since I screwed up last time.
     
  5. HELLutek

    HELLutek New User

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    Hey, Im back after the weekend. Thanks for the gratz!
    Run the fruit test twice, to confirm my calculations, and decay is 3.358 pec per shot. Which means 3.500 dmg / pec and that puts it in honorable ex aequo first place in the most terribad eco on BLP UNL SIB gun.
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    Those pirons and SR33 are way worse than rest of the guns, you think that's intentional? Makes them pretty useless ;P
     
  6. Kung Fu Munchkin

    Kung Fu Munchkin Member

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    I'm a total noob, especially when it come to higher lvl weapons.

    But I thought that everything over 3.0 DMG/Pec was good ECO and most weapons people say is ECO is in the range of 2.9 - 3.0 Dmg / pec. What am I missing?
     
  7. slither

    slither Active Member

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    He's showing the eco in the old way using max damage, most people these days use average damage. Those 3.5 in old/max system are around 2.44 in the new/average system.
     
  8. HELLutek

    HELLutek New User

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    3.5 dmg / pec comes from plain calculation of max dmg / (decay+ammo cost), and that's what i selected on entropedia screenshot.
    My guess is that you are saying about actual eco - the real dmg / pec you get on your gun (including dmg spread, misses, crits, etc).
     
  9. Lizzy

    Lizzy Deactivated User

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    Very nice toy, but I can't put a price on it. Eco might need some extra calculation, there are some people that are good with it that are able to give you exact numbers.

    Level 15 is very nice, but most UNL pirons have shown themselves to be very uneco. I think the piron '10' that Kikki Jikki looted had an eco of around 2,5 when maxed.
     
  10. WhiningSkeptic

    WhiningSkeptic Active Member

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    I can. TT+0.99.

    Crap DPS crap DPP. But someone will pay thousands I guess.

    If the numbers are correct and the dpp calculation doesn't regard hitrate, we are looking at something like 2.3625 dpp.
     
  11. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I would still rate the ul pirons above the gravis. Cos you can actually max them. Also have at look at the range in the OP. Got yourself a nice tagger there.
     
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  12. San

    San Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. I get 2.3x dpp out of my GBR-23 w/ Beast (0.5 too strong, but worse even w/ Angst) at lvl 34 blp sniper, 32 dmg. One of the unlim Pirons I saw rated at 2.5x dpp on Entropedia recently.
     
  13. HELLutek

    HELLutek New User

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    It's on arkadian auction, if anyone is interested :)
     
  14. WhiningSkeptic

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    How is 77m a nice tagger?

    And why do you compare it to gravis?
     
  15. HELLutek

    HELLutek New User

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    I understand your attitude to life WhiningSkeptic. I would actually consider myself one of your kind, but you're breaking my balls. (As would E. Cartman say)
     
  16. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Range-wise it beats all of the L Herman weapons, most of the Gravis. That's not bad.

    Because they are the other relatively common UNL drop on Ark (vary rare to see smuggler weapons drop now). Because the comparison has been made in other discussions about the value of UNL Pirons. Gravis have a theoritical higher dpp ... If you are lvl 100, but at the lvl most people use them, their dpp is going to be lower than this one.

    Regards,
    KikkiJikki
     
  17. San

    San Well-Known Member

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    I have a Calytrek Soul Mk.V on tier 7 stuffed with all range extenders, getting just over 100 m. Using it sparingly because it's L, but sometimes it's just perfect. Always on the lookout for same ones with high TIR's. Maybe I shouldn't divulge that ;) If the one up here had, say, tier 5 already and I the ped for it, I wouldn't hesitate.
     
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