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The costs of flying to Calypso through Space on a VTOL

Discussion in 'Space' started by endy, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. Smoerble

    Smoerble Active Member Pro Users

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    you can't attach the welding wires to the RK-5 somehow?
     
  2. MIND

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    ... then you have to deposit to get down or sell something to some other guy :D
     
  3. Therred

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    Being a lowly noob I have a stupid question. Are stackable items in containers in your inventory lootable? If not then can you put welding wire in containers? Maybe a dumb question but what is the answer?
     
  4. Spike Black

    Spike Black Active Member

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    From my understanding the space stations that don't have a planet associated with them do not have a teleport, i.e. you can't jump from one to another.

    If a pk soc decided to camp one of these stations they can effectively hold anyone there indefinitely as you can't tp down to a planet, you can't run from the station as the fighters are faster than vtols and a pk'er can wait around the exits from the station and follow you into pvp space.

    I'm assuming that welding wire is used in a similar way to ammo and ME.
     
  5. red

    red Member

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    yeah. providing, there is a working teleport at the station where you're stranded. the neutral stations have teleporters, but they don't work.

    if nobody comes along, you could be there a long time.

    yes.

    it is, but it is still lootable. likely, an oversight.
     
  6. Oleg

    Oleg Active Member

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    I don't think that many PKers will be waiting for hours, consuming oil all the time, outside a space station that there is no need for anyone to visit, until someone lets them follow them into the PvP zone, without any cargo, meaning zero reward for the killer.
     
  7. red

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    you're likely right. however, I never thought there would be people with such self-esteem issues that they would camp revival point for hours upon hours just to keep killing whoever happened to revive there over and over.
     
  8. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    One word...Letum...Too short yadda yaddaa yadda.
     
  9. Suu Miles

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    But the neutral stations do have the "space" auction? I am wondering where they are, cause if you can't even access that you are pretty much dead stuck.

    The only solution out I see is having a 2nd ship in your inventory that you can use to go back, unless you are double unlucky and get pked in that one aswell :surrender:
     
  10. Hyssch

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    Dang! Just TP'ed down from Arkadia Space-Station... I should've made one more trip with VTOL once up there and check this one out, for I'm been wondering also, where that Space Auction might have access to it.

    Can anyone who's still up there on Space, check this and tell if one of these neutral space-stations in the middle of the Space map, has access to Space Auction? For Space-Stations next to planets don't have auction on them


    -- Hyssch --
     
  11. Suu Miles

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    Well, I am on a neutral one now, no auc terminal. Might just be on the motherships? If that is the case space sucks, cause you have to rely on NICE people coming to all those remote space stations :(
     
  12. Hyssch

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    Thanks for the info, appreciated :)

    And yes, if Welding wire is lootable (as it is confirmed to be) then the safest way would be carry an extra VTOL on Your inventory with SI at 100% (if Your main VTOL/Quad Wing gets blown away) and have some backup-fuel on that one, just in case


    -- Hyssch --
     
  13. Suu Miles

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    Yeah, what I did/do... I did read on another forum that ma will make ww a nonlootable item, just hope they do it quickly
     
  14. endy

    endy Active Member Pro Users

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    Edited the first post. One way trip to Caly on a VTOL should cost you around 3PED.
     
  15. Atlan Leticron

    Atlan Leticron Active Member

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    You forgot to calculate also the MU on used oil and thruster.

    And those are costs you need to make too.


    Regards,
    Ion
     
  16. red

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    endy, you forgot the 2 ped for leaving arkadia's atmosphere, as well.

    so, 5 ped + the markup on the decay on the thruster.
     
  17. endy

    endy Active Member Pro Users

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    As far as I've been told, you are charged only when you enter atmosphere with the landing fee, there is no charge for leaving.


    I'm not gonna include MU on a VTOL, VTOL possible repair, RK-5, welding wires and thruster, since I'm not gonna update the price here every day and it's not a buying guide, so it's a TT price if you like.

    Obviously, you have to be in possession of a ship and a thruster to fly through space.

    If you buy oil on Caly it's 102% MU so I'm not gonna add that up to the very approx 80 pec fuel expenses either.
     
  18. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Except that right now,thruster MU forms the bulk of the cost. for example at 6k% MU that 10 pec decay grows to 6 ped and u have that decay twice. Thats why it currently makes sense to TP down from station to planet for 7 ped.
     
  19. red

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    you were misinformed. it's two ped every time you cross and atmosphere. launching or landing from airless asteroids like FOMA and crystal palace does not carry this surcharge.

    I understand about wanting to list the costs in terminal value only. however, you might want to mention that certain elements - like the thruster decay and oil consumption - are subject to market mark-ups.

    as kikkijikki pointed out, the bulk of the actual cost is currently in the thruster decay.
     
  20. endy

    endy Active Member Pro Users

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    The first post changed as per requests
     

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