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Spartoline! Freeing the sweat slaves!

Discussion in 'Wishlist' started by Sparticas, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. Sparticas

    Sparticas Member

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    SPARTOLINE FORMULA TO FREE THE SWEAT SLAVES ENMASS.
    O+S/R=F For all vehicles.
    Oil+Sweat in a Refiner=Fuel Should be put in all vehicles to put sweat buyers on the streets again. Vehicle useage would diterman price of oil and sweat but we would at least have buyers again.

    This was Brought to ND's attention by me. when valks came out that is when he came up with the Idea of sweat in the BP's IE:Creative Juice. now i don't want ND and MA or any of the Planet Partners to sweep me and my idea UNDER THE RUG. I will be starting a ADvert Camp of some sort to drum up support for this. the way things are going i'm getting put in a hole with all the Bp's and being ignored. I don't think it is fair for MFGers that make things to take the brunt of the cost and it should be spread out and sweat should be used by all again!! FREEING THE SWEAT SLAVES!! SPARTOLINE!!!
    PLZ PRESS THE LIKE BUTTON TO SHOW SUPPORT OF THIS FORMULA.:surrender:
     
  2. harmony

    harmony Active Member Pro Users

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    Why would you want to increase the cost of play? Why not just suggest that when you deposit 100 peds, you only get 50 and the rest goes to a random non-depositor?

    If you want to raise the price of sweat, suggest bringing back a sweat-cap.
     
  3. RexDameon

    RexDameon Active Member Pro Users

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    if this was required it would only give me more reason to sweat and make my own fuel. so i dont think it will really help the economy. Just give me more motivation to do some free skilling which may just reduce the price of skills.

    I think A-team putting sweat into furniture bp's has been a better solution.

    What i would really like to see is sweat being used to open up wave spawns like the hussk. I'd like to see some Oratan wave spawn areas that you have to pay some sweat to get them started. or smaller mobs also.
     
  4. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    That's an idea... mobs that you need to summon using sweat.... sort of like the hussk, but with loot ;)
     
  5. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Sweat has already been added as a component to a bunch of bps. No need to screw with vehicles.

    If you don't like the market value of sweat, do something else, like try putting some money into the game.
     
  6. Sparticas

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    I have put money into the game wich out prices every game I have ever played online period. As far as people Like Rex that is the Idea get out there and sweat be social and stop being above slumming with other sweaters thats what bring potential depoers back. We don't need more mobs that noobs have to die a billion and 1 x before they can get a bottle of sweat all your arguments are mute null and void. if anything it will decrese the cost of play because then MA won't have to dump as much money into PR because of word of mouth.. NULL VOID ARGUMENT.
     
  7. Sparticas

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    Funny how it is suppose to be micro transactions and I spend more in game here than in a casino. Go figure.. I guess i better stop playing 25 cent slots and go to the penny.
     
  8. Sparticas

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    This Idea has nothing to do with boosting the price of sweat it may it may not the supply and demand of the market will make the price. The object of it is to get the demand up so there are more buyers on all planets. Looks in this formula if the Price of Sweat is TOO HIGH Then go sweat it yourself or travel on a budget.
     
  9. Sparticas

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    I think i'm going to use a divide by 0 Argument to boost my standing on bravado.
     
  10. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Increasing the demand for sweat boosts the number of depositors? Sure
     
  11. Few Scars

    Few Scars Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator Arkadia Adviser

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    To be honest I still think depositors should get a reward for supporting the game, which may encourage more depositors.
     
  12. Sparticas

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    Well yeah it does I'm proof of that and so are alot of other people. If it wasn't for buyers being plentyfull i would have never bought into this game ever!! I know others as well that when sweat was 5 ped and the buyers plenty where able to stay and become depors after the decideded they like it.
     
  13. Sparticas

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    Don't you think this would have worked by now? I see a loot bonus after I depo and i hear same thing from others, they see a loot drop increase after they Depo. Just saying.
     
  14. cute781217

    cute781217 Active Member Pro Users

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    Nah I think loot bonus after deposit is purely BS, maybe you can think it this way, loot is dynamic so you lost all your ped in the bad cycle then deposit 10$ and the loot cycle into good time so you feel you getting better loot after deposit.

    I think huge amount of sweats uses in furniture is annoying enough, I hope no more bp uses sweat at least not in the same amount of furniture. Many sweaters can survive when sweats are worth 2~2.5 ped/k, and some of them often bragging about being a non-depositor and can survive in EU, so I doubt any of them will deposit if let say sweats are 4 ped/k, so I think increase the demand of sweats only let sweaters sucking blood from us depositor easier
     
  15. Sparticas

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    Well maybe true about the cycles. but there not sucking blood sweating is work. if you need it and the price is high sweat it yourself. Your not above anyone else. We all shyt and piss in the same Fish bowl. So what effects one effects the others.. no matter how much you depo.
     
  16. KMax

    KMax Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    There is just so much sweat in this universe. I know people that have 100's of k in thieir storages, I know of many shops/apartments with huge stacks some 1million big sitting in them, etc. Prices of sweat is so low because of one simple fact it is everywhere in great abundance and people are willling to give it away for cheaper then the next to get rid of it because they don't know what else to do with it and really fewer and fewer people are needing it because it is just simply building up.

    Putting it in fuel and BP's will only take a small fraction of the sweat out of the universe really. If they truly wanted to make a dent in sweat remove the synthetic M/E from the tt and make those chips use normal M/E. But that gets rid of MA and PP's getting total decay amounts for using those chips.

    They could make it a requirement to spawn mini mob bosses like with the Husske. That way low level players are burning it up when they go out hunting. Create a sweat pistol that is basically a water pistol for just fun. It just would be better if low level players used it more instead of just relying on the higher level players to use it all up. Mixing it with oil to make fuel is a good start but there is just so much of it more things need to be done.

    I am sure many of the MF people and crafters have such huge surpluses of sweat to use that they seriously buy sweat so people can quit asking them to buy it.

    I have helped out the sweaters as much as I can, I have so much sweat in storage all over the universe from purchasing from new players that I am good for making M/E and crafting for next few years or more.
     
  17. Nobleone

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    The spelling in this thread is hurting my eyes. :facepalm:
     
  18. Sparticas

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    NO Speelling Nazzeeei's
    Allowwed!! :soangry:
     
  19. TheLovelyHope

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    I sense a bit of a divide among depositors. Seems like most depositors are coming out with a superior to the noob kind of attitude, who is mostly trying to get around and make it in-game, without having to depo. How is trying to sell the sweat, begging for peds? It is called marketing. Is that the same as the hunter trying to sell hides, or miner trying to get rid of his ore/enmatters.
    MA came out with Sweat gathering as a profession, it would be nice if they would come out and find some sort of balance for the abundance of it in the game. Too much sweat with little purpose. Its time they found a better purpose for it or eliminate it completely. I agree totally with Spart and Kmax. I have depo'd in game, but who wants to play a pay to win sort of game.

    In much of the Mindark advertisements, vids and promos, they mention and encourage sweat and sweat gathering. Now, they need to come out and promote and encourage more bps, vehicles or the use for the abundance of sweat, so that everyone benefits in the game. Not just the depositor-but all players. Seems to be a big initiative for them to handout a sweat gathering tool, when you start to play Entropia Universe. Give sweat a purpose.:surrender::eek:
     
  20. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    It's one thing to have sweat as an ingrediant for some new bps or perhaps to release some vehicles with alternative fuels that include sweat. I have no problem with that. But I do object to making it a required component of fuel for all vehicles.

    I have no problem with people attempting to play for little or no cost. Good luck to them if they can make that work. But I get pissed off when they try to get changes introduced that would require that I subsidise them. And that's what this proposal is.

    Now Sparticus talks about the social element in sweating but if that is why you are sweating then there is no need to worry about the market for it. The scintillating conversation is it's own reward. But if finding buyers is really so important well I am quite happy to buy sweat at TT value. I can always buy a pergola bp and use it up that way. Contact me in game and I am sure we can do a deal.
     

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