Smuggler/Moonshine Armour/Plates related mission(s)

got a grapheme polymer from a wombana stalker last night, can also confirm that you do not need to be a smuggler to get them, only half way thru the first kill point mission.

 

Talked about this briefly in chat a couple days ago, and since I'm approaching the point half way through Wombana stage 5:

I don't know for sure if it's a disadvantage if I start stage 6 without having first bought the Smuggler clothes. Would I have to repeat it if I don't acquire the status first? All I could gather was that everybody who has done it so far already had their clothes. Anyone did it the other way around?

 

Sorry I can't say for sure that you would be ok. But my belief is the order shouldn't matter.

In any case as you are in stage 5 you have a couple of choices.
1. Play it safe and get the clothes before you finish stage 6; or
2. Take a risk and establish for all of us once and for all if the order matters.

Good luck.

 

There are a few players that had finished stage 6 before the smuggler missions were available and theirs were recognized as complete by the NPC. It went unnoticed by most of the community because the warehouse instances were not yet available at that time.

 

Drop rate on the Moonshine Armour Plate (L) is quite low, I have now done the Warehouse 1 Instance a 100 times (Stage 4 IFN Soldier Killpoint Mission completed) and have only had 1 Plate drop for me and it was not Full TT. Perhaps this will go up once more players qualify and do the instance or the Plate mission.

 

You probably meant Moonshine plate 1 ?
But at least they are dropping. Still no sign of graphene composite. watch the MU of the polymer plummet until composite starts dropping.

 

Well I doubt I'll ever do the smuggler mission but...
All 3 types of plates are on the auction now, pictures have full TT value below each.


(on reflection, I think the one plate was a link in arktrade chat eitherway they're out there)

 

I don't think either of the upgrade plates have been made yet. Certainly not on the discovery list in EL. But item links are available from the broker or people with the missions.

 

I'll certainly defer to KJ's knowledge on this since I'd put those pictures together 8 days back.

 

Also the TT value of the UL plate indicates that the "most wanted" graphene composite material has most likely 10ped TT which may be the reason why it has not droped yet (looting 1ped TT graphene polymer during "wave time" make this material quite common).

So if those 3 conditions are true:
- composite has 10ped TT
- compostie drops only during "wave time" (which lasts usually around 2-4min).
- composite drops only from bosses inside warehouses (my personal opinion on this - it can be totally not true)
then looting one might be actually not that easy.

Falagor

 

Going from memory here so might be totally wrong, but doesn't the upgrade to Smuggler Plate require 10 Graphene Polymer plus the Composite?

 

Interesting theory. From memory ( I would need to check details at mission broker), I believe the description on the composite is that it is found in Arkadian Underground. But the description might not be correct. Could be cut and paste error from the polymer. Also we could check the TT value at the mission broker.

So far I have tried:
All the smuggler mission mobs - significant numbers of all except badgers.
Oratan miners in the abyss but only a few dozen (I'm dubious about these guys since they are also found outside the Underground)
A few smuggler bosses at the abyss - not enough to be a good sample.
Mining (trying unsuccessfully for SOOTOs)

I really think that with the volume of mission mob hunting going on, composite should have dropped if it was in their loot pool. But then I think back my socs attempt to get the final kamaldon dna part over a period of many months. So I still can't rule these mobs out.

Still to try:
Defense bots
Punies near the main tp (wouldnt it be funny if puny hunters got the composite).
Oratan Wave (how many kills to spawn the lancers?)
Smuggler mechs.

 

Reading the mission for the Plate upgrade I got the impression that the Composite is from AU too, My stab in the dark is that it is going to come from Oratan wave spawn bosses, but I cant solo them them to check and confirm.

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This stuff is refined I think.

 

Yup its:
1x full TT regular plate (30ped)
10x Graphene Polymer (1ped each = 10ped)
1x Graphene Composite (unkown TT so far)
Since the UL plate has 50ped TT thats why my guess on TT value on Composite is 10ped .

The TT value at broker shows 0.00 TT value both on Graphene Polymer and Composite - so can't get he value from that .

And indeed in both descriptions it says its from UG.

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Explanation why my guess it may come from warehouses - because to me it seems it is similar model that we have already:
- grind through mission to get access to instance
- inside instance: loot rare part thats required for turn in
- get ul plate with % block.
Sounds familiar?

And the mod 5B and smuggler 1 are actually comparable.

Falagor

 

ahhh you're right, I thought you need the mk1 plate to make the Smuggler one (sidenote: Moonshine Plate 1 and Moonshine Plate mk1? really? No one expected any confusion?)

Not to put too much stock into the description, but it does say that the composite is a combination of the polymer and carbon nanotubes (I know there aren't any either), so has anyone tried if the Polymer goes into a refiner? Or maybe there's a blueprint for the composite similar to composite boards?

 

Polymer does not go into refiner . First thing i checked when i looted one - seemed so obvious, right?

Falagor

 

I figured someone tried it already but had to ask

 

Composite has a tt value of 5 ped from what i have seen in the links and should be obtained by refining carbon nanotubes , where are these nanotubes who knows , my guess is that it would drop from mining but i may be wrong , have mined quite a bit and no result , mby after patch day.

 

hunted badgers for past 4 days 80 ish or so globals only 22 Polymar found. Buncha lvl 52 guns and unl crap pistol, No composite, might be droped in warehouse only will tell u once i finisg stage 5 and 6 of this crap.

 

ALmost done badgers Will prob stream and record for youtube a smugg run since there is none on you tube in about 4 ish am pst if u wanna stay tuned I need 3.5k more killpoint.

if not ill see about youtube !!

twitch.tv/AutobotVu