Pirates are a legitimate part of the game, yes, but several of them take it to an extreme level which is why they tend to have such a bad name. The OP wanted to know WHY space PVP has such a bad reputation and this is the main reason why. But he continues to deny the fundamental aspect of pirate actions. Whether the game allows it or not, he and his ilk are stealing from the people who fly in space. All he has to do is admit to this truism and the argument ends. But he wants to be painted into the same semi-white knight aspect that the planet pvp had, which will never happen as no amount of in-game skills will affect the outcome of a pvp battle in space. In the game, like in real life, you have bad winners and bad losers. Just this morning the pirates launched another 'verbal' attack in the hopes of stirring the pot to cause more vindictive to flow into the game. The people who tend to pirate in this game fall into the former category as they seem to have this NEED to throw it in people faces over and over. If you were to try and analyze it I would have to say that they are simply so desperate for attention that they will do anything for it, even if it is negative attention. Otherwise they are just petty vindictive people who have a sadistic need to make others feel worse than they do, even if they have to make things up in order for this to happen... Mindark may be the biggest 'acquirer' of ped, but that is the price that is paid in order to have this game to play. Everyone loves to have a free game to play, but in reality someone HAS to pay for that game to stay around. But it's so much easier to blame the game for poor loot than to blame the people who seem to think this is a free ride for them and never invest a dime.