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Watch This Planet Arkadia Update 2012.7 (4th December 2012)

Discussion in 'Planet Arkadia Release Notes & Updates' started by Cyrus, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. harmony

    harmony Active Member Pro Users

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    Rather disappointing if you ask me, but i guess it was needed. Could we please try to keep it civil in this forum though. I'm sure the arkadia team understands disappoints even if they aren't expressed with f-this and f-that.
     
  2. Chris | Arkadia

    Chris | Arkadia Arkadia Tech PAF Administrator Planet Arkadia Official

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    Hi Guys.

    Ok some explanation on why we had to rebalanced the weapons. There is currently a shift in some balance aspects of Entropia in order to bring a fair and balanced game for all planets and their players. We were given the option of scraping the Herman series weapons and replacing them with a new series of weapons or re-balancing them in order to meet the new balancing of the universe.

    Had we opted to go for creating a new series of weapons and simply scrapping the current series it would have had a broad impact on the local economy affecting far more then the Herman weapon series. A lot of weapons manufacturers have probably noticed a steady decline in the total amount of (L) BPs dropping for the Herman series and the lack of (UL) high level BPs as a result of this.

    Further a lot of resources required in the crafting Herman series weapons would have needed to ether be pulled completely from the loot pool or reduced to a really low drop rate in order to control the amount of weapons that can be crafted with the (UL) blueprints. This would have resulted in 2 situations. 1: Some off the Herman Series (UL) blueprints would become useless and thus have no value. 2: Other BPs both (L) and (UL) that also use the same component would become useless or and lose their value.

    Because of that we felt that in the long run re-balancing the Herman Series is a better option in order to maintain value on the current blueprints and also to not completely unsettle the current economy further delaying planned enhancements.


    We understand that this is causing some frustration in not being able to use weapons previously maxed but the alternatives to this could in the long run have been far worse then this.


    Regards,

    Chris
     
  3. cute781217

    cute781217 Active Member Pro Users

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    Thanks Chris but I personally don't understand the re-balance. Why X1 and ASI-40 Arctic has almost the same stats but needs 11 more require level? I don't get how can it be balanced for us Arkadian
     
  4. Chris | Arkadia

    Chris | Arkadia Arkadia Tech PAF Administrator Planet Arkadia Official

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    Hi Cute,

    This is a good question.

    The re balancing of the weapons is actually a bit of a long term goal in Entropia. However simply re-balancing our weapons one by one would have caused upsets with every update. This would also further setback our economic plans by having to constantly rebalanced them or fill in the void left if one of the required components got disabled.
     
  5. Boardian Chilix

    Boardian Chilix Active Member Pro Users

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    thanxs for reply
    i start to find some sense now
    anyway i think that bp Lvl should be upped too, as seems unmbalance , so low level bps for such dmg/sec
     
  6. Boardian Chilix

    Boardian Chilix Active Member Pro Users

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    guess it may mean we may soon dont see them anymore
     
  7. RAZER

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    all I think is that the X1 will be changed too in the future to match the ASI-40, but that some planets change their weapons a few at a time and that Arkadia chose to do them all at once, causing a temporary difference in stats, but correct me if I'm wrong Chris.
     
  8. Kevlie

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    Quarry looks better now :)
     
  9. Mordrell

    Mordrell Active Member Pro Users

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    Hmm I have very mixed feelings about this update...

    Firstly the skill requirement rebalance has completely screwed up my plans of weapons for merry mayhem... to such a extent that I'm even considering using an old school non sib gun now... some of the guns I use like asi 40 I still have maxed, asi 40 arc/desert I have very low hit and dmg now... asi 40 jungle that was maxed I don't even have sib on anymore. I'm just glad I haven't started buying guns yet otherwise I would be very pissed. On the other hand it gives me something to skill towards (again).

    The sound change for my raw-505 is another matter, I don't really know what to compare it too... its definitely louder. Instead of a mouse sneezing it now sound almost like a torpedo from star trek (best comparison I can think off). Not exactly what I was hoping for but better.

    I do like some of the ui changes as well as the multiple item drag in inventory. Also it feels like the otorugi are hitting slightly harder yet slower, but no announcement was made about any changes to them so could just be my imagination.

    Another thing I was kinda hoping for (but did not happen), was that the raw/sir weapons sib range would increase too but that their eco would also be improved. They have better dmg and lower sib requirement then the baringers but less range and worse eco. I would have liked to see the sib range increase from lvl 25 to 40-45 but also have range increased to 160m and eco more in the 2.85-2.9 range. I feel its a bit unfair that one planet can introduce a 2.9+ dpp gun with 160m range when the other planet can only do 2.7-2.8 dpp with 30% less range??? Or maybe I am missing some balancing dynamic here.
     
  10. Geronimo

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    I agree totally with Chilix here and Im one of the regulars who buys his crafted CAP series. If hunting is nerfed I will cut down and that does not benefit the crafters either. I will do some field testing before going cry wolf though.

    cheers, Roni
     
  11. remontoire

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    I guess the Advanced scanning sensors will be super rare. Same for other components specifically used for Geotrek / Svempa. So you pay ridiculous markup to get low level high dps, or you use what everybody else uses.

    People who have calypso old ul sib must be very happy with their investment.
     
  12. T79x

    T79x Adviser Arkadia Adviser

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    quick instance test ...
    ( run 3x 01 law99r / SGA opalo / cap99r)
    bosses got Regen
    averge 4 ped more needed for 01
    LAW99r dont last for all run
    loot looks same as before , well more loot in small chests than before , but lets see change in long term...
     
  13. KikkiJikki

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    Ouch. I had started getting my gear ready for Mayhem. Now have a weapon I spent 400 ped on that up until yesterday was maxed and now I haven't even reached SIB.

    And of course there are significant consequences for my weapon crafting business. The only thing I would remind people is that weapon eco hasn't changed at all. If you still have a weapon of choice maxed, then it remains as good (or bad) a deal as ever.
     
  14. KikkiJikki

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    Could Ark Devs please supply a list of SIB ranges, - min, max for the changed weapons? We need to update entropedia and also get ready for Mayhem.
     
  15. svena

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    Yes indeed we have. Was wondering about that one.


    So that explains the sudden huge decrease in my erionite availability. I certainly hope that the drop rate returns to normal soon.


    Good points. I suppose losing a few 10s of K ped value from my blueprint after the change is still better that it being uncraftable and worthless :surrender:

    I would STRONGLY recommend you watch MA's every step. Several of the new caly guns compete directly with ark guns, now have similar requirement levels yet 2/3 to 1/2 the decay. See Isis Project Zero-Five/Four and Emik Enigma L3.

    Its possible that MA move to make the drops of those weapons very rare, but so far they have been quite common and have dominated the midlevel blp pistol market. As of right now, the ASI-40 and its variants are worthless.
     
  16. RexDameon

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    First of all A-team great job your making the right decisions on your part i think. MA on the other hand is giving me no reason to re-install Entropia after my hard drive crashed a month ago.

    I'm starting to feel like MA wants to just do a mass screw over loose all the current players maybe keep a few die hards and rebuild the whole balance of the universe.

    Not sure where MA is going anymore i hope they got an ace up there sleeve for the next update because a simple avatar update is just not going to cut it. We really need a big change and something that puts some confidence in players because right now after this VU a lot of people are questioning there investments here and i think thats going to have a very big effect on the whole game.
     
  17. Airskin

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    Maybe it looks better, but it kills my fps. I pretty much can't be in harbour and quarry anymore. Especially when people start spawning their vehicles all around.
     
  18. Airskin

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    By the way, Demonic excavators are nerfed too, though i didn't find anywhere mentioning this.
    Efficiency at 0.6 means 5 stones of any ores max per use...
     
  19. Chris | Arkadia

    Chris | Arkadia Arkadia Tech PAF Administrator Planet Arkadia Official

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    Demonic excavators is Rocktopia content if I'm not mistaken. You might find an answer on their content update thread on their forum.
     
  20. aj502

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    Looks like Kikki and Chilix got fucked here.

    No bout a doubt it...GJ MA (again).

    ...And yet after all this ass fucking, some of you are all planning to ped-dump into Merry Mayhem...God what i would give to own a company where the customers don't care how hard i scrw them over and they still over pay for crap return.

    Ferking gold mine.
    :/

    Knowing than one HAS to be semi-smart to play EU, this "lemming to depo" just absolutely fucking baffles me!






    Tippin'
     
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