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Long overdue introduction welcomings,pvp and more ;]

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    Hi ;] not sure if this is the right section apologies if its not lol but anyways

    Welcome.. to Entropia Universe.. Planet:Arkadia .. I am that strange and wacky er... entity known as .. JJ lol ...( full avatar name [weeeeeeeLittle JJ killerOfWhatever] )...

    and i thought it was about time i properly introduced myself, let people know what JJ is like, and ofc welcome people to the game and planet Arkadia, as well as try help and advise them as best i can, more on that in a moment ;]

    but 1st of all lets continue the introduction of JJ what is JJ like? what is she about etc?
    well, JJ,... just like all of us she has good and evil in her, but in her case it is quite literal as she is believed to be part angel, part demon, hiding her demon horns with cute adorable bunny ears so as not to frighten people away, this suits the demonic side of JJ just fine as she likes her prey to not even see her coming ;] lol
    ofc such an abomination was not welcome in heaven nor hell, not even earth, so was sent to a different universe entirely lol

    however those that have met JJ know she is nice most of the time, helpful and friendly ..even in pvp
    as she has even healed and shared oil with players she has just killed at arkadia oil rig lol

    most of the time players she does not know will only be killed once in pvp unless they give her reason to keep killing them lol

    from the very beginning she has always been honest, and warned people that she does have a evil side to her who loves to be bad, troll, and kill whatever, literally, just like the last part of her avatar name says lol but her favorite prey in particular is especially humans, and very much enjoys toying with her prey and making them rage and cry ;] lol

    fortunately this side does not show very often, just now and then to calm her blood lust lol
    what side of JJ players see depends mostly on how they behave, or where they are at the time,
    tho chances are if u are in pvp beware evil JJ could take over at any time and kill .. even friends are not safe as some have found out lol ..JJ has no boss, does her own thing, and fears no1 nor death ;]

    and thats the introduction bit done lol now then moving on to the advice section ....

    well tho i like to be helpful and try to help others with all due respect i gotta say i am however not the kind to hold peoples hands and tell them how and how not to play the game,
    as i wish to encourage players to find their own way and own play style, capable of finding the information and resources they need,

    so 1 of the best things i can advise players to do is 1st of all, get social, talk to just about every1 dont be afraid to ask for advice and tips as most are more than happy to help, giving advice and links to webpages that can help,
    there are even players who are Arkadian Advisors who wear green uniforms and it is their job to well advise lol however if u wish a more personalized approach its a good idea to seek out a good mentor who can teach u what he or she knows about the game but i do think its important to not just listen to any 1 person and ask around as much as possible as each player has their own play style and way of playing the game so ..

    2 places i recommend u hang out at is the quarry located here [31201, 9523, 122]
    and Celete Outpost located here [27273, 10919, 155] right click on your map and set waypoint ;]

    the quarry is where most hang out to trade or advertise their services and u should find 1 or 2 arkadian advisors there to help u but usually they can be found in populated areas, but if not u can
    chat in local.
    u can also add this channel [#arkadia] this can be seen by all anywhere that have also joined this channel same as [#arktrade] which people mostly use to trade

    Celeste outpost is where u can find something known as sweat circles where a group of players will work together to sweat a creature in this case a creature known as a nusul, but careful even the nusul young has health of 330 hp and this 330sweat it is probably not advisable to take 1 on urself hence the need of players to work together and form a circle around it usually things do go well and some healers will also show up to help keep the players alive as the circle grows and even kill teams maybe be formed,
    pls do not try to kill if u are not part of a team killing the creature or if any1 else is shooting as they will mostl likly do more damage than u and u will get no loots at all lol

    there is also another location that i would like to share with u guys that a group/organization also hosts a daily sweat event there for 1 hr and has 1hr of heal support and even give the chance for 10 players who have 41 agility or less to win the right to sell their sweat for 2.50ped but this is only 1k sweat per winner that answered the hosts question correctly, the location is the chemical factory and located here [24809, 10379, 194]

    and now the pvp section and more....
    another place u can go try n get free fuel to help u with your travels would be arkadia oil rig this is a pvp zone but its not lootable u can kill or be killed in this zone u will eventually be let to to if following the ifn mision chain ;]

    pvp lootable especially space has much history and hatred in it probably more so than land based pvp this is cos some players dont like pvp and for some reason it feel it is forced upon them and seem to think that for some reason if they dont bother any1 or attack then it should somehow grant them immunity from being killed..or looted in lootable areas
    and should they be killed some take it very personal , some even rage or cry abuse at their killers ..which ofc just gets them killed even more lol from what i hear there used to be a rig on calypso called orthos this rig has been shut down and no longer drops oil as it was used by players who would que around for hrs to get free oil and tt some of it for free ped
    this is not something i want to happen to arkadia rig so i will spend there keeping it alive by killing whats there oratan and players jsut as some others do ;]

    so with space pvp ur probably asking why?....why do some even care if they are attacked and looted in space??? if there are secure warps available

    well isnt the answer obvious? ;] ... its cos the owners and senior members aboard these ships do not follow their own advice and have been caught by pirates and been looted in the past, so ofc they keep getting attacked in the chance that more loot will be gained, after all there is always a stupid few who forget to log out b4 warp lol

    and there are those that still ignore all the advice they are given including their own advice and still try to take the risk and cry about it if they get caught and looted lol

    pvp lootable or not, is not what u think it is, in fact some of these people are even my friends lol
    despite whats been drummed into u, it is not full of evil assbutts who want to rob and steal from u and stab u in the back, its just players that enjoy the sport of hunting other players enjoying that part of the game, yes it is true u do get a select few who are just well assbutts lol

    now then let me try to explain to u guys what pvp actually is ..

    it means Player Vs Player . not Peacefull Very Peacefull or Pretty Very Pretty lol
    it means that players who choose to enter these zones agree, and accept that they can kill, and be killed by other players in this zone. and looted if lootable zone

    in the case of lootable pvp it is not stealing from u again something thats also been drummed into if u are looted , u knew the risks when entering the lootable pvp zone and thus like any gamble in any contest ur loot is then no longer ur loot, and as u have made this bet/ stake that u can make it to ur destination without being killed, it will remain not urs till u win and make it to ur destination, or lose losing ur loots / stake / bet whatever u want to call it lol

    i will always play the game how i want to and not bow to any1 and follow their way of thinking how the game should be, i am my own person and will enjoy all the game has to offer and continue to meet and make new wonderful friends along the way both goodie player and evil doers and killers lol

    the game is meant to be fun so plz do enjoy it but at the same time plz do try to show a little tolerance and respect to all players, remember if u are killed by another player, being a rude assbutt giving them abuse is likely to get u killed more lol, and to the killers plz dont be assbutts and kill players too many times especially if they have done nothing nor fight back or give abuse there is no sport in killing weak players over and over when they have no fight to give back, it just makes u a bully and a assbutt lol
    but by all means if the player or players deserves it blow them to bits til they yeild or apologize lol ;]

    anyways ty all for reading and i hope ...most of u enjoyed the read and found it very informative and helpful bbye every 1 hope u all enjoy the game as much as i do be ur own person play how u want within reason and above all have fun playing and meeting new friends ;]

    -JJ- ;]
     
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    Welcome! It is always nice if people introduce themselves on the forums!
     
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    Hi JJ, well it was always obvious that happiness has always been a warm gun with you :) neverthelessI still love you though I hate PvP - and as Wauspaus reckons you are male - when then that removes any hint of lesbianness from our no doubt innocent relationship.
    Pity you could not control those urges in space.
    Wauspaus I never thought JJ was referring to your socy - many darker societies that JJ could have been talking about here.
     
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    so i read re read and read again these forum rules tho i admit dont fully understand some of it lol i do think i may have broken some rules just like the other person so ........
    eventually i did figure out how to do this and remove my other posts and scale it right back to the welcome / introduction pvp and more etc

    cutting all the other crap and drama, tho fun as it was it however had no real place here in the forum and way of topic of what my original post was meant to be lol

    i let my emotions get the better of me and ended up going on some sort of quest trying to protect players and expose the fakes, liars and abusers, who try to scam and manipulate players in the game

    i have now corrected my post and think it should now be more appropriate, acceptable helpful and informative

    i now ask that the other person who may also have broken forum rules to plz correct his post or remove it ;]

    and b4 i go on behalf of some players who may have some questions il interview JJ for u ;]

    JJ.. i hear that u have been killing in space is the reason why.....well il stop u right there were not getting into that again lol but to answer the question yes it is true i have killed in space

    ok JJ but have u ever killed and looted any1? are u a pirate? do u plan on killing more in space in future?
    woah woah woah...ok yes i have killed in in space and i have killed 2 people so far after destroying their ship and i may hunt more in space in the future ;]

    ok JJ but u sorta dodged the question are u a pirate?
    no i do not think so in this case that it makes me a pirate as it was my 1st ever kills and was 99% certain none of them would be carrying loot due to the situation and that both know not to carry loot and i myself had warned 1 of them so tho i was killing them i was epecting 0 loots but however 1 of them had ignored the warning and i ended up getting 1 dung lol

    so JJ u have just admitted u looted and gained loot from at least 1 of them, this surely makes u a pirate, and why should we believe anything say?
    well yes as ive found out it is very difficult to prove ur intentions, especially if u have just killed and looted the players lol as ofc i could be lying and the only way to prove otherwise would be to return the loot to the person i looted and have screenshot proof ..this could get very difficult if the person is mad at u and doesnt believe u and then leaves lol
    so in hindsight killing players after u have destroyed a ship is a no no if u are going to hunt
    in space learn from my mistake and do not kill the players after u have destroyed the ship
    unless u want the label of being a pirate

    but JJ if ur hunting humans in lootable wouldn't u want to loot the players like u would a mob? and how wold this work on land lootable pvp? and so when is it hunting and when is it piracy? is there even a difference? lol

    well lets take a look ;]... according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy
    Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence by ship or boat-borne attackers upon another ship or a coastal area, typically with the goal of stealing cargo and other valuable items or properties. Those who engage in acts of piracy are called pirates

    so JJ according to ur earlier post and il just quote it here

    ""in the case of lootable pvp it is not stealing from u again something thats also been drummed into if u are looted , u knew the risks when entering the lootable pvp zone and thus like any gamble in any contest ur loot is then no longer ur loot, and as u have made this bet/ stake that u can make it to ur destination without being killed, it will remain not urs till u win and make it to ur destination, or lose losing ur loots / stake / bet whatever u want to call it lol""

    so according to u JJ and the lootable space pvp core rules u mentioned, no crime is being committed and no players are being robbed ..so if going on that logic if i were to inentionally track hunt and kill a player with intention of looting them am i a pirate or a hunter?

    good question..i would like to know this 1 myself also lol..but since no loot is stolen
    and no crime committed the only other things are the violence with the intentional plan to loot lol, so i personally would be more inclined to say u were a hunter as u intentionally tracked and hunted the player for sport with the intention of looting the spoils of ur kill

    im sure there are many who will agree and disagree, those who believe they are being robbed and think criminals are killing them will ofc choose pirate, whereas those who agree with with what i just said and look at the facts may say hunter

    but JJ if the people who think they are being killed by criminals and robbers or should i say pirates wont they still be angry at u for destroying their ship and still call u a pirate anyway? cos u are to them committing a criminal act against them lol

    probably some will yes and even tho they may not label u a pirate u will still be a scumdog criminal to them for killing them lol some of the players like this hate pvp hate to be killed they will most likley get mad at u and even type abusive text to u

    these people are also like the land based pvp i spoke of they hate pvp and yet go into it anyway feeling it is forced upon them and think they should get a free pass and not be killed cos they are not bothering any1 or attacking lol

    but instead of taking it up with the game makers its easier to just hate rage and cry and call all the killers evil people and scum lol

    i have made several suggestions to the game makers to make the game better especially pvp and explained how it could be made more fair for all involved they appreciate my feed back and will consider it and hopefully they will implement these changes in the near future ;]
     
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    after many typos and spelling corrections later yey lol i think im now happy with my post and seems ok so far to me
    lets hope that this time there will be no more petty rows or arguments lol
     
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    In criminal law. A robbery or forcible depredation on the high seas, without lawful authority, done animo fur- audi, in the spirit and intention of universal hostility. United States v. Palmer, 3 Wheat. <>10, 4 L. Ed. 471.

    animo fur- audi = intent to steal


    universal hostility is a big point. Beef is beef, that's between specific players. Piracy is cycling randoms (intention of universal hostility) with the intent to profit off their loss.

    I dont consider known pirates attacking me piracy, simply because I've been fighting them so long with most it's personal, but when they shoot folks they dont know at all or have anything against it's piracy by definition.


    my 2 cents, GL to all involved.
     
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    is it safe to say hello now? o_O

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    so... i looked and i looked ...and ...i looked lol

    and nowhere so far can i find that piracy has anything to do with entropia universe lol

    i have even looked in my achievements, cos as some1 pointed out to me if i have indeed killed and looted people in lootable pvp then i should have unlocked this achievement at least:

    Robber You have killed and robbed a player in Lootable PVP.

    so being as i have only killed 2 people in lootable pvp and both were in space

    i went thru the entire list trying to find it and i could not ... so that means that robbery in lootable space is not considered robbery by the makers of the game .. i also could not find any labels or achievements for me or my ship labeling me as a pirate

    so this means...if i understand correctly by the games rules ..(not the made up rules by players) the hunting and killing in lootable space pvp

    is not considered unlawful or forced and in additon to being also warned by players a message box also appears on the screen i cant remember word for word exactly what it says but il check the next time im in space ;]

    but anyway it tells something to the extent that u can kill or be killed and some items looted from u by ur killer and ofc once uve closed this u have agreed to the the terms

    lootable pvp space the way i understand now is that until proven otherwise, is the biggest hunting grounds in entropia universe
    with areas within it called training grounds which have mobs for players to hunt

    and what alot of people tend to forget in any pvp zone is that they themselves can quickly become the prey / hunted

    so way i see it all these people who try to warn about pirates in the game and label people pirates, and telling any1 who will listen that these people are evil people who will kill u for no reason and steal your loots are just simply whining raging and complaining about
    about having being hunted, killed and looted by their killer or killers (yes even in nature prey is hunted sometimes by packs) ;]
    and ultimately crying and raging about something that does not exist in the game lol

    so to recap on the facts : ;]
    lootable pvp = is not forced on any player as all who have entered it have agreed to it and the function and rules of the game
    players can kill or be killed = again nothing forced or against the rules as all that have entered agree to the function and rules of the game
    players can be looted = same as b4, and nothing is said about it being a criminal or forced act and furthermore players looted in
    lootable space pvp at this time is not considered robbery in the game as i would have imagined that i would have unlocked this achievement:
    Robber You have killed and robbed a player in Lootable PVP.
    so any rules broken if anything would be game rules if some are determined to be cheating and using exploits in the game to gain unfair advantages . (something u would have to take up with the game makers)

    so what is it with this offensive word...PIRATE.. why do people use it if it has no relevance to the game?

    well way i see it its simple players who have no desire to hunt or defend themselves and just want to travel in this massive hunting ground
    have made the choice to become prey, and just like any prey they hate to get eaten lol, cos it well sucks lol
    however some do fight back and like to appoint themselves, the heroes, and choose to hunt other players who hunt and kill others wieither or not they kill and loot the players they would call pirates i dont know i guess some do and some dont, more of a choice
    i guess lol
    some also attempt to protect and offer safe travel to those to weak,poor or unwilling or unable to fight back , sometimes for a fee ofc ;]
    this ofc if fair is perfectly fine and not unreasonable to ask for some sort of fee for safe travel as they are putting their ship
    at risk and incurring all of the costs to travel and repairs should the ship be attacked, there are even some ships that offer safe travel for free ;]

    ofc now we come back to the pirate label .. why is it needed or used?
    well just like ive said u have now got hunters/players who have appointed themselves the heroes / good guys who need a label to put on the players they hunt and kill to justify their own killing on other players while making them look good, and ofc the players they have killed the bad guys, and so the PIRATE lable is born, hunters/ players who kill other players who are to to weak or poor to fight back or kill the self appointed heroes that try to protect them and offer them safe pirates, are the bad guys , the scum, the thieves of the universe blah blah lol

    and there u have it guys ;]
     
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    ofc .. i think...lol

    JJ maybe be a little bit crazy or a lot crazy lol... but she is mostly kind and only a little bit evil

    she has no desire to make any1s life a misery unless they give her reason to or deserve it ;]

    being as evil JJ has not tasted ur blood yet i would advise not to go near JJ in any pvp, or do so at ur own risk until u have
    been killed at least once by her, cos tho u may get away for it for possibly a very long time, evil JJ can come out at any time to kill and feed and she doesnt play fair or how u want her to lol

    well wither u like or hate JJ, i have tried to make her a fun good / semi evil wacky character and i hope u all enjoy the game
    as much as i do, i always enjoy meeting wonderful new friends and people to play with along the way and look forward to meeting u
    guys in game

    JJ ;]
     
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    also upon further research there is however a karma rating that goes on both u and ur ship ur ship can have its own rating if it was gained from some1 else so it is possible to have a ship with a rude rating on it even tho u have not killed any players
    i dont at this time know all of the ship ranks but its pretty much my understanding so far that if u kill mobs u gain +karma points if u kill players u gain -karma points this is not a indicator of evil or good players but to alert other players that these players hunt players more than they do mobs and caution should be advised ;]
     
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    well in short it fits the definition of piracy... being robbery OR forcible depredation... which is basically the same thing as robbery without referencing it to something "illegal". Now with the "robber" achievement... thats just ingame stuff with MA making achievements and titles for stuff for players to achieve... most dont think landside pvp hunters are actual "robbers" ie; real criminals... just part of the game. From what I have seen the big issue with space is spawn camping. There is no pvp game out there where spawn camping is not frowned upon, and in an RCE it's looked at even worse.

    lol oh and most pirates hunters aren't "self appointed hero's" they are just people who genuinely enjoy pvp. Personally I dont consider piracy real pvp... their targets are 95% unarmed players, 4.99% players that dont understand space combat so they dont stand a chance in a fight all via spawn camping. It's not "pvp" it's effectively like cycling mobs that dont stand a chance.
     
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    hi again guys ;]

    well this may come as a shock to u morgoth, but i do actually agree with most of what u are saying lol

    that yes, in most circumstances, taking aggressive action against another player via ship, forceably destroying their ship, killing them and taking the things they posses against their will etc would normally be, as u said, the very definition of piracy and robbery, lol

    however what i was trying to point out is, that as far as the game itself is concerned, piracy and robbery in lootable space does not really exist at this time, and that no players have been forced into anything against their will. as all players that have entered this zone or any pvp zone have done so of their own free will, and acknowledge the risks involved and more or less know what to expect

    so if/when i choose to kill whatever i want in space, be it mob or players ect, i will always consider this fun sport / hunting, until either the game itself changes or i am proven wrong lol ;]

    and the way i see it, nothing is forced on any player, and that players who have entered this massive competitive hunting ground type environment, known as lootable pvp space, have done so of their own free will, so i will also assume as well as others, that players entering this zone are fully aware of exactly where they, are and that they can hunt/kill or be hunted/killed by not only space mobs, but other players in this zone, and that their killer can also if they choose, kill them after destroying their ship and claim their prize, if any loot is has been foolishly carried by the people who were just killed, and just like any mob / prey the loot they carry is just as much up for grabs as it is on the mobs, that the second they entered this lootable pvp zone any lootable loot they are foolishly carrying is now no longer theirs, untill they have left it ;]

    and i also agree with u that not all players who chose to kill players that have been labled as pirates are self appointed heroes that they as u said just love to compete in pvp ;]

    with regards to spawn camping ..im not sure i fully understand what u meant by this nor am i sure would it be appropriate to discuss this in this post for obvious reasons lol,

    with regards to fairness....well yes, it it a bit unfortunate that some, well probably alot lol of these types of players who seem to choose only new or weak players to target, rather than compete with and fight other skilled players lol ..

    also suppose u could also look at it this way. a mouse being hunted by a cat could, if it wanted to, scream and yell abuse at the cat.. why are u hunting me?
    ive done nothing to u i just want ot be left alone ect, and ofc to the mouse it is unfair lol
    so why should humans be exempt from the hunt? they are fair game after all just like the mobs as far as im concerned ;]

    and no its not really fair in any pvp where the difference of skill and equipment vastly seems to differ between competing players lol
    but hey thats just the way pvp is currently set up in this game, if u dont like it and dont want to get killed, or looted in the case of lootable pvp zones .... then its advisable that u simply do not enter these zones lol

    and more importantly if u dont fully know whats what, then plz do try to learn as much as u possibly can from other players and other sources such as the internet etc b4 entering these zones,

    and to the players who are more experienced, i ask that u plz not project any misleading , incorrect information, hatred or beliefs etc onto these new players, but to simply teach, help and warn them that pvp and lootable pvp zones can be very dangerous competitive areas, that b4 entering they should learn about it as much as they can, and better quip themselves, or be made aware of other helpful options that other players provide to help protect them some what and help them get to their destination ..hopefully safe and sound lol

    and while im sure there are many who might disagree with some if not all of what im saying lol ,i would rather not get into any petty rows or arguments, i believe what i believe as do u . and perhaps instead of getting all upset and angry about things, why dont a bunch of us get together and propose fair solutions / improvements, in another post to the game creators, to try and make things a bit more balanced and fair ?

    i myself on occasion have been contacting the game creators offering them my ideas / solutions to try n make the game better and more fair .. and they ofc appreciate the feedback and will consider the viability and possibilities of these suggestions as, due to technical limitations some things just simply are not possible at this time, or could have a negative or disastrous effect on the games economy which is something else that must always be considered, cos it is a RCE as morgoth said oh and this is Real Cash Economy ..yes i googled it lol

    so i think thats probably just about it there is nothing else really for me to say ..well atm lol ;]

    so hope u guys have enjoyed reading and bbye for now have fun ;]

    JJ
     
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    hey morgoth..next time suza and i have to go up in space to give a escort down because your trying to shoot them down..please by all means explain to us what a pirate is and stop hiding under grannys skirt..SO real was the avatar name we had to go get who was in fear of being shot down..you nor nbk decide what a pirate is..if you kill and loot in space...your a pirate plain and simple..
     
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