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Lending system

Discussion in 'Wishlist' started by Danton, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. Danton

    Danton Active Member Pro Users

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    A long time wish of many ppl is to have a lending system.

    What I think how it should work:

    1. lending request to an avatar like the trade window
    2. placing items like in trade window
    3. setting timeframe for lend out (in hours or days)
    4. accepting of both ppl like in trade window

    After the lending period timed out, the items which was lend out are automaticly spawn to planet-storage of the owner, so no need to meet up again to give back.

    Setting a flag to items during lending period that make it impossible to sell the items.

    A part of the code needed to built this in already exists. Vehicles respawn to planet storage if owner is away from them for a specific time.

    I know, that's a wish that will affect all planets and it is not in your hands alone to build such things in, but maybe you can force "them" to do so :)

    To make it interesting for MA *and* PP, there could be be a *little* fee for each lending window, maybe 5 or 10 PED max, shared between Planet Partner and MA.
     
  2. Jamira

    Jamira Member

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    It is an old suggestion but still one of the important wishes. A lot of scamming wouldn't have been possible in the past, low and mid level player could profit from making experiances with higher equipment, player could give away their gear to others while they go to vacation and so on.

    One problem is hard to solve: repair costs. A friend of mine lent me his UL Genesis Niflheim (max TT > 20k PED). Imagine it came back to him completely empty!
     
  3. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I like the Idea of a secure way to lend things. I think in a way the vehicle use system is actually a test for that system down the road.

    But I gotta say....Its really begiining to piss me off seeing every idea people have state in their last line its OK to charge a fee.

    NO ITS NOT!!!! This aint the fucking cable company, this aint the phone company... I get fee'd to death IRL and in far to many ways in game already...Just stop with this will ya's.. Its a given they are gonna hit us anyway they can with costs..Stop giving them permission to stick it in us deeper.
     
  4. Danton

    Danton Active Member Pro Users

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    You are right, but:
    MA *and* PP are on for business, not only to please us. So it is their natural interest to make money.

    They simple can say: "You want an item, so buy it. Or take the risk to loose it by lending it out. Thats your problem ppl...."

    So, to grant them to take a *little* fee can make it more possible to to give us a feature from which they have *nothing* but work, if not getting a fee of it :)

    it's like in RL: If want something from someone else, make it interesting for him/her to give it to you.

    Be sure, I dislike such fees same way like you :)
     
  5. Danton

    Danton Active Member Pro Users

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    Ohh, good point. I havent thought about repair costs. There will be a solution for it, but it makes coding more complex. While using the lended item, the decay could be taken from PED Card immediatly, and if PED Card empty, item will stop working.

    Edit:
    Other idea, you have to put some PED on a voucher like place, like a prepaid mobil phone card. If amount of PED of this card is used up, item stop working.
     
  6. Chiba

    Chiba Member

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    This is an amazing idea.... I have been hoping MA would implement it years ago, but I doubt they will. If they do, everyone will "trust" everyone and can lend everyone anything, which means people will stop depositing huge amounts to buy the items themselves.

    MA says they do not care about the markup and all they care about is TT value.... I doubt it :)
     
  7. krm398

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    It might be ok between society members or friends but I can't see people lending things to each other not knowing if it'll come back the way it left, also people who have nothing themselves will figure out some way to use other peoples stuff until it's worthless and then dump it. Not to mention even if you explain things to people again and again, someone will be dense enough to buy a lent item from someone who doesn't own it..there's a thousand ways the code would have to be checked and they'll figure out some way to abuse the item or process. It happens every time something new comes out and there are people in game...every game...that are here just to break things, it's their hobby or something, I've met a few since I've been here, and this idea might work or not but it would definitely be used as some kind of exploit by someone along the way,IMO.

    About the time limit on letting your boat/hover/plane sit. I know they can't be stolen because everything you own from mining claims to things in your backpack can't be picked up by any strangers just for fun, so why not let us decide if we want to let it set while we kill something, or mine a little somewhere, instead of having it disappear and end up in storage, make a 'Title' for it like a claim for mining and it's perfectly safe.
     
  8. harmony

    harmony Active Member Pro Users

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    There is one huge drawback of the lending system though you have to take into consideration.

    There will be people that start renting out uber equipment through this system. This way they make money from it, and are less incline to sell their uber stuff, which will make the price of uber (or even mid-level equipement) increase a lot. And there will be people wanting to get into the business trying to buy they gear, which will increase the price even more.
     
  9. Luckycharm

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    Ah the lending system. It would be great, but it would also be for all planets and MA never seemed keen of this idea in the past sadly.
     
  10. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Of course not.. someone would loan out the real toys of EU and someone could actually be competition to the favored of Calypso.
     
  11. Gravel

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    I would like a lending system, but I would suggest that only unlimited items could be loaned. The item would have to be fully repaired before the transaction. At the time of transaction an amount equal to the full repair cost be removed from the borrowers account, just like in the auction. When the borrower is ready to return the item he would click on the item and select repair and return. The item would then be returned to the owners inventory fully repaired. Any unused PED would be returned to the borrowers account. A time limit set by the lender would be nice just in case borrower forgot, quit playing, got banned, etc.
    I would think that a lending system would encourage trade. Find something you really like and you will do your best to get one.
     

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