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Land Plots - Planet Arkadia

Discussion in 'Planet Arkadia News' started by Dylan | Arkadia, May 5, 2017.

  1. Sokolade

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    Make Planet Arkadia a dynamic, innovative and caring community of long-term dedicated players.

    Provide outstanding gaming experiences and creative challenges in both an individual and cooperative setting. To encourage and inspire our players to become active participants in an ever-changing virtual world.


    Just a bump!
    Have a wonderful day all!
     
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  2. Sokolade

    Sokolade Member

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    Bring This Up!
     
  3. DannyO

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    So when are we going to get the Land Plots we won like 9 or 10 months ago?

    I was under the impression they were being sorted once the Swedish summer holiday's finished??
     
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    3+ months since the last “i will update soon”

    Bump!
     
  5. Dylan | Arkadia

    Dylan | Arkadia Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator Planet Arkadia Official

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    Attention Land Plot winners

    We are humbly apologize for the delay in communication and the release of the land plots you have won. We are working close together with Mindark to get them released as soon as possible but unfortunately there have been unforeseen compatibility issues that Mindark is looking into and solving for us.

    We wish to release a stable and interactive system as soon as possible but we cannot rush it as developers from both sides are working to get them in game.

    Please be advised that we will update this thread as soon as we have information regarding this matter.
     
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  7. DannyO

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    Dylan, this is pretty bloody poor!!

    Shouldn't the event prizes have been "Stable" and the developers should have worked on this, before or when you announced them as prizes.

    9 months of apologies or no communication....Stop fobbing people like they are kids or retards... people pay to play this game so treat people with respect.

    I am guessing that European or Australian law allows you to advertise event prises... when they don't even exist..... in English law, you would be had up for fraud, people have paid money and completed in an event, you have advertised prizes.... but they don't exist!!

    Do the right thing...... Own the issue Dylan, and come back with some definitive dates, or compensate people for announcing prizes that were not in place, and you were not able to deliver within a reasonable time frame.

    I don't think that is an unreasonable request, do you?
     
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  8. San

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    But you knew they didn't exist, and you knew MA's track record of choosing priorities in ths regard. Why do people keep competing for or buying castles in the sky? It's not fraud, it's grabbing people by their own greed. Works every time. (I.m.o. the compet deed payouts which were announced a certain time but never came are much more a case of fraud. Borderline at least. And the screwing over stable investors... evil. Here you have a case of PP devs acting in good faith, but falling into the same trap.)
     
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  9. DannyO

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    "But you knew they didn't exist" are you for real?

    I am not a mind reader, where does it state that the Land Plots Prizes were in development and could take up to a year or so to implement?

    As far as I am aware, land plots already exist on cally, and doesn't Ark use the same platform? Shouldn't they have been tested before they were announced as prizes?

    " Dev's acting in good faith" you are looking at the issue as if you are living in a virtual world, I live in the real world, and "You cant ask people to pay or spend money, when the prizes advertised don't exist"

    "Its not fraud...its grabbing people by their own greed"..... it is actually fraud, or obtaining money under false pretenses, call it what you like... the event was advertised with prizes.....fact; people participated in the event, spent money doing so....fact; and then the Prizes advertised didn't exist... fact.!

    Did Neverdie have the same issues over his prizes for his event, new guns, armor etc..... NO!

    Land Plot winners have repeatedly asked on this forum when they are going to get their prizes, and it takes someone like Dylan over 3 months to reply...... and then you get "We are humbly apologize for the delay in communication"..... its pretty bloody poor.... are they a proper business or just a micky mouse operation!

    I personally at this stage, think they should do the right thing, and offer the Land Plot winners a choice of refunding the peds lost during the events... or maybe something like a set of Gold Rush Armour to compensate them for deliberately misleading its participants.
     
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    Did you even read the original event announcement? Or anything said by officials in adjacent threads?
     
  11. Sokolade

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    You mean those 3 posts saying - “we are working vlose with MA to resolve this issue”?

    This is pathetic. As far as i know there is no land plots even designed and proposed to MA. Something that should have been done 1 year ago!

    It is a very very poor business practice. I know Dylan and David has other companies to work and spend time at but please solve this issue first!!!!
     
  12. DannyO

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    Ok, I apologise, I must be really stupid missing this on the Official Announcement.......

    "all participants, please be aware, if you take part in this event, you do so at your own risk and cost, as the Land Area prizes are not actually in existence at the present time, but we hope to have them created and operational next November 2017 (1 calendar year after the first stage)

    I also apologise most humbly.....

    that it has taken Dylan since February to reply to my direct message to him..... I wasn't aware that people had more important things to do, I should be more considerate and wait longer in future!!
     
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    Ok..... what would you call me if I said the following....

    Event win 500,000 peds

    Roll up, Roll up, come and buy a ticket for the event of the year..... only 100 ped to enter, and the prize is 500,000 peds.

    Then if you win, and you contact me.... I say " well I am working on the prize money, I didn't actually have it at the time, I hope to give it to you in a year or so"

    I think you might call me a scammer at the very least!!
     
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    It seems I really need to apologize. It was somehow firmly in my mind that the land plots were nothing but a future promise from the get-go and wanted to dig up the evidence just now, but found you're right indeed unless I missed something again. It may be because I'm biased and do find it painful to blame the Arkadia team. But something is sadly amiss.

    The original announcement: http://arkadiaforum.com/threads/gold-rush-2016-genesis-event-1-7.13829/
    with no hint that they aren't even developed yet.

    After the first round, announcement of the winners: http://arkadiaforum.com/threads/gold-rush-2017-genesis-event-1-7-results.13852/
    with no hint that they aren't even developed yet.

    After the final round: http://arkadiaforum.com/threads/land-plots-planet-arkadia.14152/
    is the first statement I could find where it is mentioned that development is only beginning in the future. Er, it is THIS VERY thread...

    Please, guys. I like this planet. Don't make me lose confidence.

    (Phew, had to edit several times. Hope it is correct now. Sorry for the slurry of emails.)
     
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  15. DannyO

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    San, "Please, guys. I like this planet. Don't make me lose confidence."

    I am one of the biggest supporters of Ark, I personally think its by far the best planet for a grinder like myself, if you look at my hunting stats, you will see I am one of the biggest hunters on Ark.

    My issue is nothing to do with the planet itself, its to do with the way the event was put together and the lack of response.

    I am a Managing Director of a company that lives and dies by its service to our clients. Clients are always hard to get and easy to loose, so you have to make sure that your customer service is on the ball, if things do go wrong, as they sometimes do.

    When things don't go to plan and sometimes go wrong, its how you respond to the issue that can save the day.

    There is no way the Ark team should have announced those prizes, without either A) having them ready to hand out, or B) having an agreement from MA that they would be ready to hand out.

    If MA has said that the prizes would be available, then Its then down the Ark team to seek compensation from MA.

    Basic SLA's (service level agreement)

    If Ark cant deliver the Land Area plots, within a certain allocated time period, then people are quite within their rights to seek compensation as they have been mislead, either by asking for their peds back spent during the event, or the very least the Ark Team could give each of the winners a set of Gold Rush Armor or equivalent.
     
  16. Heidi Stassinopolis

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    How much is this compensation figure you have in mind?

    I just wonder, because obviously you will have some idea of what the event cost you overall, or maybe you broke even? or came out ahead?

    I can see how it's annoying etc but I think you have basically boxed Dylan into an impossible place where whatever he said now would not satisfy you.

    I'm just saying this to see how you would actually like it resolved to your satisfaction now, after the event, assuming the land plots will not be available for some undefined amount of time.
     
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    "They never claimed land plots existed. But then, they never claimed land plots did not exist. Circumstances being what they were, neither admission could be of any benefit. Silence, though, could."
    (with apologies to late Roger Zelazny)

    On a more serious note, in the original announcement land plots are notoriously missing from 'prize item statistics' section. That alone should have been a sufficient reason to double-check before competing.

    edit: I also notice the original announcement says simply 'Small Land Plot' etc. without referencing planet, thus theoretically allowing to settle the matter by giving the winners Calypso land plots.
     
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