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Lagg gone worse?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Discussion' started by Ridan, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. Ridan

    Ridan Active Member

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    Im not sure who and what this is addressed to so if U could enlighten me abit that would be awsome. For hunting the lagg issues U would encouner would be.
    1. Loot lagg 2. Gun freezing.

    When none of thoose 2 are happening I rarely have hunting issues either and nr 2 dosent happen that often while nr 1 happens atleast once per day or so.
     
  2. Few Scars

    Few Scars Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator Arkadia Adviser

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    Lag is awful on auction, Quarry and especially Celeste Harbour. LOL I picked up one of my shopkeepers, put it on auction and the body of the shopkeeper was still visible in my shop. Seems servers have been redirected to keep MM running. Also loot has been redirected to fund the 12 million Peds worth of loot in MM. Loot is awful anywhere else. The Ark team is busy at work but I think the MA and Caly teams are still on holiday? So nothing being fixed.
     
  3. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Bill, one major non-lag change is that mobs agro as soon as you tag them, even if they evade the shot. So previously with some mobs you might get 2 or even 3 shots in before they even notice you are trying to kill them. Now they hear the shot going over their head and spring to action. People with low dpp taggers like this cos they get the mob with in killing range sooner. People with reasonable dpp and low evade don't like it cos their defensive costs go up. Players may need to re-evaluate what they are hunting. If you can't go toe to toe with a mob then perhaps its not a good option any more.

    And then when you do get hit, the change in the way armour and plates work together can also be a problem. I wont go into detail as there are other threads on that issue.
     
  4. dam4ster

    dam4ster New User

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    Lag here recovering the loot also..
     
  5. Gewitter

    Gewitter Active Member

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    About Celeste (whole server, both Quarry and Harbour) lag

    Here is impossible to be.
    Here is impossible to play.
    Inventory (i have big inventory) loads in 2-4 mins. Cant put anything to containers or inventory for long time.
    All around loads in 1-3-5 mins
    Crafting is impossible (i use Aakas server for it, all works fine)
    Extracting money from PED-card is hard!
    Private trade is hard
    Shops is hard to manage (or operate)

    Messages:
    'The operation is failed due to internal error'. Very often when do a deal, using inventory and so on
    'Connection to EU lost...' Often, but not every session
    'Problems with connection to Entropia Universe' (when i try to enter) - Often after 'Connection to EU lost...'
    Whats going on?
    No problems (or very less) with other Arkadia servers

    I would like to know when it will be fixed?

    A-Team, people need your help!
     
  6. Medeina

    Medeina Member

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    Indeed. I wonder how many people pass by the shop fronts in Harbour without bothering to wait for the adverts, shopkeepers and items/decorations to load up. New players may not even know that there's supposed to be these things. Shop owners lose potential customers. Customers have a harder time finding what they're looking for. No one wins.
     
  7. Snape

    Snape Master of the BanHammer Staff Member PAF Administrator

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    I experience these same symptoms in a lot of areas and NOT just on Arkadia...It happens a heck of a lot on Caly especially PA Mall and TP Mall (where I spend most of my time restocking the SFE shops). TBH I think it is a system wide issue and its been around a long time.
     
  8. Gewitter

    Gewitter Active Member

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    I have a shop in PA too.
    Lag in PA is much less, but PA have another problem - server crashes :)
    About the same lag, but less, observed on Amethera on Caly in some areas
    What is the reason - I do not understand :huh:
     
  9. Ridan

    Ridan Active Member

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    Another fun thing happend to me today that I havent seen before prollly related somehow. When trying to logg on it said server offline for maintance. Tried agian and al of a sudden I could login
     
  10. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Celeste Quarry really is particularly bad. I have to go elsewhere to do trades. It's supposed to be the main trade location so that's a big problem as far as I am concerned.
     
  11. AlexSolo

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    i bought a new laptop some weeks ago.

    since I got the new machine all movement lag is gone no matter where i go ingame. i run smoothly through harbour the only thing i realise there is that the fans on the laptop get louder than elsewhere but the machine runs the place fluently.

    using my old laptop everything lags while moving.
    seems EU is very memory hungry.

    when using the new machine the only lags i get are:

    - lootlag
    - lag when opening auction sometimes
    - lag when opening shop keepers (this one arrived with one of the last vus. I click on the shop keeper, nothing happens and when I move away a error window "target too far away" for every click i did opens)
    - gun or other items are stuck when operating and need alot time to reload (the reload bar on the hud hardly moves then)
    - when repairing items sometimes the ped are taken from my card but the items are only repaired after a relog

    these occurences are annoying for me as they affect gameplay in a direct way.

    but what i have to say is that all the other lag is gone since i got the new laptop.

    i tried the machine out at the oratan attacks with all oratans and other avatars around and there was no gaming lag with all options on very high details, motion blur effect and avatar leaning on.

    when i opened my storage with the new machine for the first time i was very impressed how fast it loaded through. it seems that inventory with all the small items is very graphic intense.

    8gb ram and 4gb ram on the graphics card do the job now.

    one other issue i still see is that the client shuts down suddenly without error message at random times and places. that started with the 64bit VU for me and is still there and it happens on both laptops. i use win7 ultimate 64bit with latest drivers - no tweaks on the operating system. "as is"

    eu is freshly installed from the web onto my new machine. i did not copy the files between the laptops to save time or anything. so i would say that there is something with the eu software that causes the crashes.
     
  12. Ridan

    Ridan Active Member

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    Hmm I havent tried but would it work better turning of 64 mode? Just noticed I had that running to with basicly the exact same issues. Seems alot is server related thou.
     
  13. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I run a one year old Alienware M18X with quadcore P7 cpu, 32GB ram and a good graphics card (I forget the model and I am not at home to check) and I still have problems with inventory, trade and auction activity at Celeste Quarry. I submit that this is not a PC specs issue. One issue that might be impacting is that I routinely have more than 500 items in storage because it is not possible to operate with less given my crafting materials and hunting gear, even with most armour and weapons being in boxes. If Storage management interface were made list based instead of graphical that might help with some performance issues.
     
  14. AlexSolo

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    i doubt it will do anything for the good. you got pretty much the same issues like I have and Im using the 64 bit client.
    these issues are mostly related to use a terminal or use a item.

    I think these are either a problem of the software client or a problem in the communication between the client and the server.

    I can imagine that there is something on MAs side in relation to round trip time (time needed for packages to travel between sender and receiver)

    like your client is sending the command to open auctions but the response of the server is taking to long to get back in that particular moment something like that.

    i never worked in online gaming developement but I would start to search there first if I was working in MA tech department.

    we have lag issues in the kind of "happening when a certain ingame action is caused" its a matter of "who responds to whom in what time and what happens then" in most cases.
     
  15. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I don't hunt anything I cant kill effectively and go toe to toe with. If I cant hunt it naked then I don't hunt it at all. Some of the larger mobs like huon Ill use armor with simply to avoid playing fappy cakes with them. My point about the changes in mob behaviors were more to point out the lag is perceived to be between us and MA when in fact it is not. Loot lag is understandable as to me they simply gave the loot servers less bandwidth then the play servers. That leaves all the changes in mob behavior strictly as a new function to take more money in decays because the smaller hit boxes, faster mob reactions and (on Caly the competition trained sprinters the mobs have become)

    Its just anther crap move that MA has done that makes my blood boil as they constantly cry "Balance this and balance that" when in fact the balance is ALWAYS one sided. Bottom line is the lag and or whatever you want to call the changes along with the "cause is external" excuse is SOP for MA. Wont go into loot return as that's not the topic but it hugely ties into all this in the end.
     
  16. Gewitter

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    For some reason, many people believe that they are smarter than others. But it is not. There are problems of the platform. I know very well about this. However, with all the problems of the platform, there is a server on which due to the lack of balance load distribution (distribution of players), suffer the most. This server is Celeste. A-team for more than six months doing nothing to change the situation. I would not say anything at all, and as a means to avoid the problem, simply can ignore this server, but on this server is located my Shop, which I bought over a year ago. When I bought it, the problems were much less, because it was smaller quantity of players here. During the year the number of players who play on this server, has increased significantly. Yes, this is great for Arkadia, and for me too.
    But as a result, any problems of platform (excess load, which we see as lag) affects this server much larger than the others. I do not accept this situation, but if others have the opportunity to change it for yourself, then I do not (Can't move my Shop!). And you know perfectly well what I write and say (about increasing lags), and many of you have repeatedly confirmed this. On the planet Calypso to increase performance server Cape Corinth was divided into smaller areas, that eliminate most lags. I have said this many times, including Chris personally, several months ago. Unfortunately, the changes are only for the worse. The number of players increases, performance falls also due platform problems. And I do not care where it is to write, i think that support read it all here, I'm trying to convey to them that the server must be divided! No need to create other threads to discuss it, it is very suitable topic.
     
  17. Mathias | Arkadia

    Mathias | Arkadia The Chief Whip Staff Member PAF Administrator Planet Arkadia Official

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    resurrecting this thread for a bit.

    for recent issues related to last weekends universe wide crash please use this thread:
    Servers are down (Saturday 26th July)

    I'll be monitoring both threads
     
  18. Gewitter

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    Very good, thank you. I would add that the bulk of the lags was appeared after updating Celeste server grafics, approximately last summer. When I switch to safe mode nothing changes there, so it's not the client problem.
     
  19. Zweshi

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    Celeste server just dun goofed again along with some mobs i killed that didnt count for mission before dc :thumbsup:
     
  20. AsYlum

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    Hmm is it only lucky day or Quarry server started working like it always should? :)
     

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