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Kronan attacks Varyag, are they in league with the pirates?

Discussion in 'PvP' started by happy_hipster, Nov 24, 2017.

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  1. happy_hipster

    happy_hipster Active Member

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    Wednesday night I thought was going to be another normal night skilling, but I was in for more then I expected. It was an epic battle of the space whales and not a single shot was fired, by the ships.

    I was returning from getting damage on the V, and stopped dead in space with a dozen or so cosmic horrors on my tail, banging away, everything normal when I saw Kronan's flag. I was about half full, so checked to see if it was a pirate attacking us. I almost dismissed it and went afk again, but I noticed it was coming straight towards us.

    So I guess it WAS a pirate ship, or one that was acting like one. The Kronan hit us in the bottom at full speed, and then tore off. I watched amazed as she came around, trailing about 6 mobs, and prepared to ram us again. Just before she struck, I hit the throttle to full, and she missed us completely. I passed through her mob ball, and took all of her ball with me. So then it was Kronan chasing the Varyag through space, us taking a good amount of damage, her completely empty.

    This was fine by me, I had a full repair crew. The Kronan tried to steal mobs off our ball for a bit, but really just ate our dust. when the time was right, I tried to head back to the space station. That's when things got dire. The Kronan matched our speed and tried to stop us from returning to the SS. It kept getting in front of her, pushing us away. It was EXACTLY the same tactic I had used on [redrose] when she interfered with our gameplay the week before. This is speculation, but since the only time I saw [redrose] on since the denial of service was immediatly after this attack, she may have been flying the Kronan.

    So is the Kronan a pirate vessel? It is quite possible. The pirates, and the crew of the Kronan, are quick to slur the V and her crew, so they are on the same team, really. Both the pirates and the Kronan are activly trying to disrupt the Varyag's service. And red rose was present at both incedents. Ill let you decide. I had no quarrel with the Kronan until now. Now they have attacked me while I was piloting in a feeble attempt to destroy the mighty V and possibly to loot our repair crew, mostly noobs trying to skill.

    So why is it that the pirates and the Kronan are attacking me? Because I am anti-pirate. Because I am trying to help noobs learn space and skill cheap. Proof is in the pudding y'all. Don't believe the hype, look at what is happening right now, and who is doing it. It is the Pirates and the Kronan against the V. So are you for the pirates, or are you for the V?

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  2. mastermesh

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  3. Granny Rowan

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    As was pointed out recently by Dylan this is Arkadia Forum not space forum. Please note that PCF does have a dedicated space section.

    That said I will not let this accusation go unanswered. Despite it being just another attempt to stir, after all you have been shown our proofs Hipster, many times, of the causes for the current situation. Please note I do not intend to enter into a long drawn out bitchfest.

    The reasons that Kronan may attack Varyag or her crew in space PVP are many, Piracy or working with pirates is not, nor will it be, on our agenda:

    1. Kronan suffered many months (over 2 years in fact) of harassment from the Varyag in Ark TG, mob stealing, killing of our mobs and even ramming us. On occasion shots were fired at Kronan while we were out skilling, and the ship was, with the aid of the mob ball destroyed. We did not return fire as we are there to repair skill, Varyags damage is as good as any mob.

    2. The Varyag has attacked Kronan on many ocassions during our scheduled warps, both before they joined with Nebula Virus Elite, and with the help of the pirates of NVE.

    3. Yoshii the owner publicly declared war on the Kronan and TOS Normandie. Has attacked both ships (again with and without pirate assistance)

    4. Varyag now makes a big deal of having severed ties with the pirates and accuses us of piracy when all we have done is mete a little of our own PVP justice.
     
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  4. Louise Ranavolana Brooks

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    Geez Hipster don't encourage them :(
    Take pride in our MS and just laugh at their ineptitude :)
     
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    I usually stay away from forums bullshitery, but since you've prooven, yet again, that you're yoshii's brainwashed acolite, let me answer some of your questions and clear up fiew things..

    You need to thanks your mighty guru for that, she is THE reason why EVERY single fracion in space (KISS, ToS and as of recent - even pirates) are against her and her ship.

    If that would be the case, you'd rep up ship at SS after being blown up. (mighty v? realy? *face palm*)

    No, your 'services', as you've overstated it, are interupted because of yoshii's (and her crew) actions over last 2 years. And since it is a pvp, as she claimed on NUMEROUS occasions, suck it up, and stop crying left and right.

    So you say if you're not part of your lemming crew, you're a pirate? That sentence alone is perfect statement of your head issues and lack of skills to think for yourself. You are hopeless, brainwashed lemming who is perfect fit for her lemming zoo she's running on varyag.

    That being said, hope that administration will delete that topic as it doesn't belong here. Go stird shit to PCF, people are already waiting for next portion of bullshit from lemming farm so dont make them wait much longer.
     
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  6. happy_hipster

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    This happened in Arkadian space. In PvP. It is topical. I have asked for a Arkadian Space folder, that is where this belongs eventually.

    I like writing, it's fun, and stirs emotion. Any nonsesense that I have witnessed have been against me, not the Varyag, I am not whining, I am chronicling. Reporting an event. It has opionion(sp) and perspective, bias and bootlicking, it lacks some insight and ignores some glaring facts, but where is your report on the incident? Was it an incident? Is it a noteworthy happening? Do people even care?

    Still getting responses....

    As for a promotion being a lemming's leap, advertisement is advertisement, and one pirates attacks on an innocent pilot is another pilots promotional event.

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  7. Yoshii

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    1. Please stop going on about there is space section in PCF forum. Many people have been banned from there for disagreeing with PCF pets. Many do not have option of discussing space in PCF forum as consequence of having stood up to and called out the PCF teacher pets on their crap.

    2. If you going to tell a story start at the beginning not in the middle. Telling partial truths is as bad as outright falsehoods. Anyone no matter how good and noble can be made to look bad by only telling part of the story.
     
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  8. happy_hipster

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    This is a PVP folder. Space is PVP. There is more space PVP then planetary PVP. This is entertaining, if it wasn't people wouldn't be paying attention. They are. They are paying attention to PvP in space. This is not PCF. This is Arkadian PvP. That is where this belongs. Had the pirates on the Kronan succeeded in blowing us up we would have revived at planet Calypso SS from PvP. I'm sorry, at ARKADIAN SPACE STATION FROM PVP. From the PVP. For Arkadia.

    The Beginning: Red rose interfered with gameplay in the denial of service attack. Middle of story. The Kronan, with redrose present, attempted to do something very similar. The end of story. Pirates stop attacking the Varyag.

    We are still in the middle of the story. This is MY story. Keep me out of your story, or keep me in it. I am just reporting an Arkadian PvP report in the Arkadian PvP section of the forum while reporting on Pvp IN the PvP section of the Arkadian Forum. Not the Calypso forum, it would not belong there.

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  9. Morgoth

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    From speculation to accusation in less then 12 hours without a lick of proof. No screen shots, no fraps, nadda.


    The story in the OP is a half truth spiced up with a juicy lie.


    Our factions are at war, that's common knowledge to any space players out there, so saying we tried to blow them up in TG with mobs wont stick or get any attention because damn near everyone knows they brought it on themselves. If they dont and ask we have tons of video and logs we can give as proof, where they have nothing, that approach has been tried and failed for them. But, if they say a pirate did it... well thats news because KISS has a reputation for going against piracy, which is kind of a corner stone to it's stance in space on the transport side of things.

    Anyway, it's bs, I was the pilot that did that 2 days ago. We even talked trash to each other, and were in the safe zone together in pilot seats so he knew it was me on his friendslist/nearby. But like I said, the truth isn't so juicy.



    see you in space buddy :)
     
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  10. Yoshii

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    Older and wiser players than those of us fighting put this conflict in very simple truthful way.
    The fighting is all about a turf war. Economic warfare. Simple as that. If there were no trade and ped at stake nobody would bother. When I was very young in this game I was told "Your reputation is all you have in this game. If it gets smeared doing business is much harder for you"

    Varyag from the beginning that I owned has it has been subjected to smear campaign of being pirates ship that defrauds and steals from players. Generals of my crew were sent pms stating slander against Varyag and some crew were compelled to leave Varyag under threat of being kicked from their society. Worked out well for those spreading that slander - Varyag lost many clients/crew some of whom became clients/crew of those smearing Varyag. Well business is a dirty game at times - kind of like politics where so much is permissible and one must have very thick hide to cope.
    I am not going to post the screenshots and chatlogs that I received in pm from clients/crew who informed me who was slandering Varyag as pirate ship/confidence scamming/thieving. That is against game rules to post pms. Im sure you can understand why they do not want to come forward. It is often very poor outcome for whistle blowers. The audio tapes came out proving all that I have said and if people want to continue to pretend the proof of what I say never came out/does not exist/is fake have at it I really do not care.

    As new kid on block Varyag suffered horribly. But another very good piece of advice I received prevailed. "When people come to know you they will see the lies said and you will prevail"
    That is exactly what happened. Varyag today is thriving. Time passed, truths were revealed, braver players gambled on Varyag and reported back to their friends Varyag is a good and safe ship. Still is to this day. Just finished warping a VIP client before posting this. Another player happy and satisfied with Varyag. Varyag is once gain filled with happy crew who are enjoying the opportunities afforded them on Varyag.
     
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  11. Granny Rowan

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    The only Turf war is imagined by you. When Kronan left EFA we specifically moved to a vacant timeslot 5 or 6 hours later in the day, to offer a service where none was offered. Then first the EFA and then later Yoshii came along and started services to clash with our flight times, and routes. Space is huge, the player base is huge, there are 24 hours in a day, yet they chose to clash. When that failed to make me quit, they offered free warps against our 10ped warp. Yes that is economic warfare, but of your making Yoshii. We just continued as we were, and doing pretty nicely TY.

    True. Shame you didn't remember this before working with pirates and attempting to lie about and smear others. You are hurting your own rep in so many ways.

    You carefully avoided naming names, but the implication is there, as usual half-truths dressed up as accusations coupled with unfounded lies. As usual claims of having proofs but yet again not given, As for the deceitfully obtained and heavily edited audio tapes, we both know they are pure BS. Tape anyone for long enough and you will have enough material to have them reciting 'war and peace'


    As new kid on block Varyag (and yourself an ex crewmember of Kronan and supposedly a friend) was helped by myself and others for weeks. One of our crew even sent a private message to advise that one of your new crew was a pirate, and that you may not be aware, This was done privately to protect your rep, not destroy it. Your bleating about it repeatedly in every forum has done that.
    Suffered horribly. Don't make me laugh, you have only been on the receiving end of a very small portion of what you and your crew did to us , suddenly you are the victim.

    I am sure the Arkadians have no wish to be embroiled in yet another space drama, but seems your crew starts a new one every time it dies down. Perhaps instead of annoying folk here you should start up an entropia space forum, and take it all there.....oh yeh you did..with a pirate..and even that is now gone.


     
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  12. Louise Ranavolana Brooks

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    I think this Kronan drama could be made into a passable play
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    I can see a role for Granny - and maybe Bas
    they would bothy have to die thou
     
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  13. Yoshii

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    I am yelled at to point to proof. The tapes came out proving what I said. I pointed to the tapes to any interested and said "There is the proof of what I have been saying in their own words"
    You say no that is not proof and you say is fake, heavily edited whatever tale you spin. No winning with you. Rowan you have amazing spin ability. Sometimes I stand in awe of your spin master ability. Your talents are wasted Rowan you would have done made great success as political campaign manager or working as lobbyist.

    Your Kronan crew told me in mind ark space channel that this war was my fault because I ought to have known better then to compete with Kronan providing skilling in Arkadia training ground. It certainly explained the many occasions your crew would yell at Varyag to "go skill somewhere else"
    Im supposing were I to prove this you would also say it is fake, edited whatever it is you say when you are shown to be wrong.

    We can keep slugging it out neither one of us is going to win this war. In the meantime we provide great amusement to the few in the game who enjoy space drama.
     
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    For your information - anyone who have IQ higher then regural potato, can hear those 'tapes' are heavily edited (in very poor and amateur way). So keep repeating that bollocks to your crew but dont have big hopes that normal player will belive it for even a second.
    You realy should go back to accepting a proffesional help regarding your mental health cause obviously you've decided not to take your meds. Its not doing you any good.

    Little do they know...:roflmao:
     
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    In before...

     
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    Happy Hipster, see what you have done - you got them off and running again.
    Angry humourless replies, claims to victim status, sweeping insults. It would be funny if they were not so boring.

    Yoshii, it is pointless to appeal to sense & reason - they like things just as they are. Gives them something to moan about and an excuse to plunder others under the guise of "fighting pirates"

    Natural Born Killer types, save your energy, insults & text walls.

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    I do like the way the subject devolves. I actually did not know til now it was you Morgoth. We chat all the time, I did not assume that it was you piloting. By the sloppy blocking tactics, I assumed it was [redrose]. So I guess it would sort of be insulting to her that I thought it was her. It was just so close to me using the MS to stop them from shooting my mobs. Keep practicing, Im sure you will get better!

    As far as the war between Yoshii and NVE, I only see two teams. Team Varyag and the pirates. Those helping new players and those consuming them. I want to be one of the good guys. The good guys dont support a denial of service attack. The good guys dont block turreting mobs to destroy a ship full of players.

    Two teams. Good guys. Bad guys.
    We are the good guys.

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    BTW, just got banned from Moronia chat. Over this. They can pretend all they want, but it is really that they are butthurt about space. So imagine that. They have made me that important to where I deserve to be banned from a planet, for my opionions. My opionions are that dangerous. TO A WHOLE PLANET>ty moronia!
     
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    i think the fact you have been insulting a whole planet "Moronia" and ergo calling all its players morons was the reason for you being silenced.
    Nothing at all to do with space
    and really Hipster I thought you had more between the ears but judging from some of your recent posts really not sure now.
     
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    EDIT.
    Might got the persons wrong, appologise.
     
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