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How to Implment Food/Drinks

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Discussion' started by RexDameon, Jan 27, 2012.

  1. RexDameon

    RexDameon Active Member Pro Users

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    As David Stated in the interview:
    What are your ideas how Food/Drinks should work?

    Here is how i think it should work.

    Food and Drinks should work the same as MF buffs, like providing boosts.

    i.e. Booze/drinks should give you Courage buff which could temporarily give you more hp.
    Energry drinks to affect agility
    Food that could effect Strength
    Also maybe you could use Food instead of faps. like eat an energy bar and it heals you 20 points or something like that.

    I think you get the idea.

    Making food and drinks would be a repeatable mission. And require you to visit/work at different bars and restaurants. To make the food you would need to collect fruits providing a market for fruits, and also we could use things from creature loot too like oils hides.

    We're already making food for pets it's silly we're not feeding ourselves.
     
  2. Elford

    Elford Member

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    Off Topic BS Deleted.
    Sorry for interrupting.
     
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  3. Puck

    Puck Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    But that's the whole point of EU... options, not requirements. Saying that the addition of drinks/buffs, condos, and furniture define the universe as a dollhouse is a tad grandiose.

    I'm all for adding anything that stimulates the economy and attracts new demogs, as long as it's not required to keep my virtual self sustained.
     
  4. endy

    endy Active Member Pro Users

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    If food and drinks work like buffs and faps, probably there should be more buffs and faps, if they are needed, otherwise it's only confusing.
    Not to mention makes this game looks even more like WoW.
     
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    Snape Master of the BanHammer Staff Member PAF Administrator

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    *Thread Moved as per OP request*
     
  6. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    please dont get food and drink in as magic potions, this is Entropia not some WoW or similar
     
  7. billairboy

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    If food and drinks are implemented, it should be as some kind of requirement, you need to eat and drink to you get back "energy (not the HP). Your energy drain should be connected to the time spent online and maybe other parameters such as how many times you log in. The food could also bring some additional short term benefit, like higher max hp for a short time.

    Food could be made by the fruits and other stuff found, looted and awareded in missions. The food and resources used in makeing the food should have no tt value, or a very tiny ped value, like the fruits. The drop rate of the resources needed to make the food stuff should be balanced to create some markup on the food, that way new depositing players can have a way similiar to "sweating" to get some peds.

    I know 99 % of you hate systems like this that would put some requirements and additional cost for playing, but it's hard to see any other purpose for food. And it should it shoul also be balanced so it are only a small cost for the players. It should not be used for healing HP, we have faps and MF for that.
     
  8. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Utterly opposed to this concept. I'm all for giving players more options and variety but don't want to see additional complications imposed.
     
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  9. GeorgeSkywalker

    GeorgeSkywalker Banned

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    Some intresting ideas.

    Depends on how they want to develop the game really. I remember in some early MA interview they gave me the impression they wanted it to be like life. So making it compulsory is a bit like life. The ideas you outline also protect the existing systems and balance e.g. faps.

    I can see some advantages with that kind of approach but many people would be opposed to it.

    Marco's state of play comment makes more sense now. About the economy being more complicated.

    Such a food system could add extra intresting features like cooking mama type minigame. People who don't want to cook would buy allready cooked.

    Would add a lot more playability and options perhaps for newer players. Lots of new dimension as well like proper fishing and cooking. I played Runescape in the past where you can fish and cook. Although I don't like cooking in real life I have to admit I found it relaxing and satisfying in runescape :) I'd go fishing then cook a big stack. In runescape though food was like a fap i.e. used to heal in combat.

    Overall something like that would be really intresting but I think us old timers although we appreciate the good aspects we don't like the cost. Me included I have to admit :) However with the new loot system if it does prove to be cheaper to play the game then I wouldn't mind an extra cost for a food system. The benefits then would outweigh the disadvantages.

    So it all depends on how much it affects our overall cost to play imho.
     
  10. billairboy

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    Yes, i think a food system that only are adding yet an other way to do stuff we already have systems, like healing (faps/MF), would be pointless and bad for balance. It should add something new the game, or leave it out.

    More fees and cost don't necessary mean higher total cost for the players, I think MA takes what they need and want anyway from the loot return. More "fees" type of cost could make it possible to increase the avarage loot instead. The avarage cost/hour to play needs to decrease, that i think many of us agree on, but we can still change and add systems that cost money for the player if we instead get more loot.

    We could have diffrent quality of the food, "Basic food", effect: Restore your energy and more high quality food that gives you some more additional benefit compared to the "basic" food.
     
  11. Jenny ferr

    Jenny ferr Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    to force me to do missions or to eat or drink some stupid potion to be online the time I want is one of the most retarded suggestions I heard, I wonder why "GTA IV" didn't have food and drink in like "GTA San Andreas" had to make a comparison....
     
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  12. Spike Black

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    they may be optional at the start but for many they'll become a necessity just like the enhancers.

    GTA IV did have food and drink ;) it just wasn't part of many missions.

    The only enhancer I want (which doesn't currently exist) is a turbo charger for my Valc
     
  13. RexDameon

    RexDameon Active Member Pro Users

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    you have to use enhancers?

    i feel like a lot of people here are responding without actually reading.

    my original post was about optionial ways playing like using food isntead of a fap or using food isntead of MF buffs

    all of a sudden before anyone suggested it everyones like NO not more required things to do but nobody even suggested this be required stuff. just optional stuff that could maybe create markets for newbs
     
  14. KikkiJikki

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    Hi Rex,

    In fact someone did suggest making food and drink required and that is what I and others have spoken against:

    I like your ideas. Not so fond of the alternative put forward.

    Regards,
    KikkiJikki
     
  15. Dan59

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    Anyone remember mining before MA invented mining amps?
    Remeber mining nerf before implementing amps?
    Today amps are optional.
    But are they realy?

    Food/drink is loong promised and discused.
    MA promissed that nobody will strave.
    We will just get better performanse using food.
    We will get directly or indirectly (enviroment ect ) nerfed before inplemetation of food/drink.
    And yes after that food/drink will be optional.

    And what is fuzz if food work like a magic potions?
    We already have that.
    We have super sci fi technology like MF inplants and chips wich are less efficient and slower than most of clasic gear. It work worse than "WoW magic", it look like is from pre stone age, maybe wooden age lol.
     
  16. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Yes they are.
     
  17. Dan59

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    Yes agree.
    Is same if you stay in trading town and doing nothing.
    Optionaly you cud buy basic rifle gun from trade terminal - but is just optional.
    Once obtained that gun you can walk around with it, aim with it.
    You cud buy ammo too, but thats just optionaly.
    Optionaly you cud shoot too, and you have option to buy and use amp, to tier gun and use enhancers optionaly too
     
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  18. zealousquiche

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    I like the idea of using fruit for something other than pet food. Everytime I would stop running, I would find fruit again at my feet! We should be able to craft it into something... something that newbs could do and make profit. But what then if no one wants power ups or "magic potions"? Carmen Miranda fruit hats?o_O
     
  19. RexDameon

    RexDameon Active Member Pro Users

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    who said anything about magic

    Beer gives you courage
    Energy Drinks give you Stamina or agility
    a good Steak will make you stronger

    Just makes sense to me. :p
     
  20. Lokia

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    that makes sense to me, although should be wine not beer (already have fruit to make the wine with in my storage). Also any sort of alcohol should make your screen fuzzy when you drink to much of it. Happens that way when I drink to much on this side of the screen, should work same way from the other side of the screen to. It should not be required that you use food or drink, or I would have to wait several weeks till I can afford to make another deposit before I could log in again at this time.
    the day I get the message:
    "Sorry, you have not eaten enough food to log in. Please deposit so that we make take the cost of food off your card."
    is the day I will leave EU
     
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