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Getting tough

Discussion in 'Mining' started by bass, Jun 28, 2011.

  1. bass

    bass Member

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    The returns would be nice, with a normal MU. There are no crafters. I'm not crafter myself, so I cant judgje WHY it's not useful to craft here: lack of bp? no customers? no idea.

    But please someone official say something official about plans. Silence about these things is a bad attitude, FPC should have taught something.

    Ple
     
  2. dude

    dude Active Member

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    I have to agree with this statment. The mining for me has been horrible. and the ores/enmatter will not sell. The hunting is just as bad no matter what size of mob I hunt. The loot is terrible and the 2 small guns I looted went through auction twice before I thru them to the TT. I am now another that will be sitting on my ass and ped card until something changes.
     
  3. invi

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    I'm another one close to giving up on Arkadia, without some urgent ore balancing there seems to be little point in staying here.

    Invi
     
  4. strangelove

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    The number of pages may be growing but that does not mean things are moving. You may just be counting the bodies piled up inside the fire exit in the theater that did not make it out through the door. Things need to sell. Mine did not....so I left a week ago.
     
  5. slither

    slither Active Member

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    I said this in another thread, Dave told me ingame that the ores would be changing this week and that some BPs will be altered too. Looks like MA aren't doing a vu this week though so it's probably going to happen next week.
     
  6. bass

    bass Member

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    Slither, you are respectable but not official, if you know what I mean.

    I think there are good concerns in this thread, it would be nice to hear official "thoughts". "Building" a new planet, with stability, need a tight interaction.
     
  7. David | Arkadia

    David | Arkadia Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator Planet Arkadia Official

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    Just want to comment that what Slither said is true. We are working to adjust the BP's to ensure the Arkadian economy can function properly. No date is yet confirmed, however we will notify here when we can.
     
  8. slither

    slither Active Member

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    I'm neither official nor respectable :)

    About why people aren't crafting, it's fairly simple. The bulk of ores don't sell to those making items to sell, they go to players crafting for skills, for a gamble, or for bps. There's loads of bp to find at ark but no reasonably priced common ores to skill with and hunt for the bps. Without a large amount of commons ores like iron,belk,melchi etc at a sensible price the crafters can't hunt for the bps.

    On calypso a miner may make his profit from stuff like solis, redu, narc which can gain a good % but a lot of his ores will be iron,melchi etc and these can be sold fast for a small markup to keep the miner going for the good % ores. On ark the miner gets loads of ores which are only used for making items not for skilling, and so the miner ends up unable to sell large amounts of ores.

    It's not just the lack of cheap skilling ores but the over supply of ores which are actualy used for useful items and which should fetch prices in the 130-160% range. Some of the ores found atm should be much rarer, and the ores that could be used for skilling (such as frig and ospra) should be far more common.

    It's a very difficult balancing act to start of a planet, they can't just drop loads of bps to use the new ores but neither can they prevent us from skilling old bps by removing the ores from the planet unless they're going to have some useless skilling bps drop often so we can use the ark ores.

    It sounds like Dave and the guys are working on this problem, but it would be nice to have them say something official on the forum/
     
  9. slither

    slither Active Member

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    ok, he posted while i was typing :)
     
  10. bass

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    Thanks David.

    The "no-ETA" answer is obviously something not very nice to eat (next VU? august? end of year?), even for the respected A-Team, but at least I know *you know* we are having hard times up here :)
     
  11. Atlan Leticron

    Atlan Leticron Active Member

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    I have created the Arkadia Import list for this, why not use it???
    There you can post the materials you need and are hard to find on Ark.
    Our pilots use that list on there trips and take home what is listed.
    For example, yesterday I brought home a large batch of frigulite for a client, The client got it even under the caly MU from me.

    That list is created to jump start the economy by importing needed materials like skilling recourses for crafters.
    Besides that is also the whole idea behind the Arkadia Star Fleet.

    So, if you need something that is not or hard to find on Arkadia, post it in the import list.

    You find the list here: Arkadia import list

    With best regards,
    Ion
     
  12. slither

    slither Active Member

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    I don't use it because i'm a miner and prefer to mine my own ores for crafting :)
     
  13. harmony

    harmony Active Member Pro Users

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    While you are rebalancing David, try to make sure Arkadian mobs drop more super charger and infrasound emitter components, think i haven't seen one of them on auction since the launch of the planet :(
     
  14. Calin

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    When ores and enmatters are rebalanced, does that mean where things are found changes too?

    I ask because I've been working on mining maps, since I plan to stay on Arkadia a long time, and I'd like to know if the data points I've already added will become obsolete with a rebalance. Basically, should I stop mapping for a while or keep at it?
     
  15. Atlan Leticron

    Atlan Leticron Active Member

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    Well if you post there what is needed you might also help another and not only yourself.
    And you can post what you use but what is hard or not at all to find.

    By using the import list your not only helping yourself, your helping all of us.

    Remember that the success of Arkadia is not resting on the shoulders of a few members of the community, it is resting on the shoulders of all members of the community.

    Regards,
    Ion
     
  16. XeroX

    XeroX Active Member Pro Users

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    And above all... MindArks Shoulders. xD
     
  17. Atlan Leticron

    Atlan Leticron Active Member

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    If I have to choose,
    I trust more on the Arkadia community than MindArk.
    But thats my personal experience and feelings after almost 9 years EU :D

    Regards,
    Ion
     
  18. slither

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    They loot but nobody buys them, i've had some infrasound in for a couple of days - cheaper to tt them or save to take back to caly.
     
  19. harmony

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    Nono i buy them, i'm just not ready to pay your buyout markup just yet :) Anything at 110% or lower gets sold within 24 hours :)
     
  20. krm398

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    message for Dave

    A message for Dave: Please, in your attempt to re-balance the economy here, don't take the whole planet and shake it..we miners need days,weeks to figure out even close to where to find things. Add new materials to mine, or add old ones, but don't move everything around and make us start all over again, ty. Chaser