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Buying Golden Key Parts

Discussion in 'Buying' started by Neil, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    Buying golden key parts. PM me here or in game if you have some that you'd like to sell. Thanks!


    (Note to readers: I have edited this post from its original because we now know a lot more about the golden key instance. You can ignore all of the following discussion as it is no longer relevant to this buying thread.)
     
  2. Larkin

    Larkin Platinum Member Staff Member PAF Senior Mod Platinum Member

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    Good post, good points. I wish you luck with the purchasing!
     
  3. Mordrell

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    As I told you in pm m8, I am willing to help cover the costs of crafting and running this instance. Send me a pm with what you need... peds... mats ... etc.
     
  4. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    GL with that...

    this crafting of the golden key is like anything else EXCEPT....

    This is an uber dungeon and the chance to loot awesome shit is pretty good so this golden key will ALWAYS demand a high MU to sell. The cost to craft this key does not fall under normal rules for purchacing componants. That potential for a huge return needs to be shared down the entire food chain it takes to get there. Everyone is "Poor" in eu til the swirlies come.. all this I cant afford to pay stuff from everyone is kinda old and worn out so exscues why crafters and traders cant pay the people getting the stuff doesnt work any more. AS they all tell me. If you cant afford to pay to play you shouldnt be here. Maybe this golden key is out of your financial reach to effectively do for now?
     
  5. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    Can you point to any uber items that have yet been looted from the golden instance? When Chilix did it he got 100 ped Arkoins, that was the only MU item in the loot. As far as we know and until we see something else drop, it's for finding "gold" ... meaning Arkoins.
     
  6. Neil

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    If you're sure that the golden key is an uber money maker, then you are more than welcome to gamble big with your own golden key bp and materials. I, however, would need to see evidence that the golden key delivers more than Gold (aka arkoins) before doing that.
     
  7. Fallen

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    well i will buy the BP at 200% if you ar unsure considering the price of ingredients, that seems reasonable to me considering the risks involved ;)

    you are right that it is a insane amount of peds, but dont pretend you dont know why, and it is not for 10% (a nr. you made up) arkoin :)
    if you consider the losses involved the markups are not that high, yes they will probably drop some, but if you want the ingredients "cheaply" you could go out and get them yourself, see how many housings you get from running LVL8 instances for example.

    if you want to do the golden key on the cheap your best bet is probably offering to run the key with ppl who looted parts as mordrell suggested?
     
  8. Neil

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    No thanks :)

    I didn't make it up, it's how many arkoins Chilix got from the instance he streamed. Plus, Arkoins have made up around 10% of instance loot over many runs in the other instances. The amount of Arkoins changes over time (as does the frequency of weapon drops) so I expect it to be different next week, next month, etc. Just as it has fluctuated up and down over the last 6 months, though hopefully with more consistency now that there is a demand for arkoins and now that the loot is spread out over the whole VU instead of just the first few days after a VU.

    There is the hope that the golden key will drop uber items including DNA, a mod fap, a mothership, a second moon.... but I don't expect that to be the case. Maybe DNA, we'll see about that. I expect there to be one new sword and one new knife to drop from the golden key, MU maybe 2k ped each. I haven't seen armors drop from instances for a long time. But if ammo costs reach 7k ped who knows.

    That's the plan. I agree, part of the reason people want to sell these parts high is to maximize their profit or make up for losses. That's only natural. And for now, at least, some players are still buying some key parts at the old gold rush prices, so if you're lucky enough to find a buyer, go with it.

    Yes, that is also the plan. I'm in contact with Mordrell and a few others who are interested in running the instance. Depending on how many waves there are, I believe the golden key simply isn't an instance you should do solo unless you can do > 250 dps for 3 hours straight.
     
  9. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    The Golden Door is Arkadias biggest thing having to do with the planet theme mate... If that doesnt produce something massively awesome at some point then MA is plain screwing over not only the players but David and the Arkadian developers as well. You cant tell me you actually believe that BS you talk earlier about it NOT having potential for being awesome.
     
  10. Larkin

    Larkin Platinum Member Staff Member PAF Senior Mod Platinum Member

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    However how many times will it take to actually drop whatever you're thinking is in there? It didn't happen when Chilix did the Golden Door. Just because there is potential doesn't mean that the MUs of all the parts should be as high as they were for when people were racing for the 1 million arkoin prize.
     
  11. Neil

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    What do you think it holds and how much are you willing to pay for a key?
     
  12. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Not a red cent as I am not one of them blessed avatars nor a swedish national that get the nice items. I know my place in the food chain and play accordingly.
     
  13. KikkiJikki

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    Note to Mods: I know you don't like discussion in a buying thread but as Neil has posted his reason for his MU and has been willing to discuss it further in the thread I hope you won't intervene. I guess Neil can contact you if he has had enough. So based on that I will add to the discussion...

    Neil,

    I appreciate you including your reasoning in the OP. You could have just said "this is what I am prepared to pay" and left people to speculate.

    I don't think you can really draw any conclusions from Chilix' run except to say he screwed up by killing the boss too soon and did not realise the full potential of that run. It was a wasted key. So really we still don't know the likelihood of good lootz from a gold key run if you pump a lot of ped through. It comes down to how much are you prepared to risk.

    BTW, I would be willing to contribute to cost of key production to be able to participate and get some share of loot. Just putting that out there...

    Regards,
    KikkiJikki
     
  14. Larkin

    Larkin Platinum Member Staff Member PAF Senior Mod Platinum Member

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    Hey there, I've been keeping my eye on this thread, but kept it open to discussion based on Neil's comment here:

    If he would like to keep the thread clean and strictly for buying, he can contact me and I'll help out with that :)

    Quite exciting to think about the mysteries that lie beyond the door!
     
  15. Xen

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    I think the prices will not be going down now, lol.
     
  16. Dave Stevens

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    Lol, I agree having see Svena do her run...some nice armour in there (better than shadow)
     
  17. BB Global

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    That is some serious Armor in there.

    The MU for the key components is announced and I'd say that given the rapidly decreasing MU on Arkoins the components should be going down in 'expected MU' accordingly - One can buy taggers / armours / clothes / RL Protective VDU Glasses / LAND DEED. The other allows you to risk a bucketful on some uber armour.

    3 pieces in one run is likely to be extraordinary and probably arose thanks to MA's release timers (like the twin animal part discoveries last night) or the RAW / SIR release.


    If you can get the components for that price Neil every credit to you, same kind of credit given to Svena and Boardian, that is a real luxury experience there like opera or IMAX (different scales).

    As for the 50k sweat required for the key, o m g.
     
  18. Xen

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    I don't see the markup on arkoins having anything to do with golden key price. You don't do the golden key for arkoins. If anything, arkoin markup going down will mean less people will do keys which means fewer golden key components available.
     
  19. Neil

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    Since uber armor has dropped from the golden key, the price i'm willing to pay for parts has (obviously) changed. I want to say thanks to those who posted constructive comments and I'd appreciate if further discussion of instance loot was taken to an appropriate section of the forum.
     

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