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Arkoin brokers?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Discussion' started by Hermes, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. T79x

    T79x Adviser Arkadia Adviser

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    someone still cant decide if there sill be ACA repsentative ( one we see at each IFN terminal ) or ACA Dehera Clearence Terminal (as mission text says us to go for reward )
     
  2. RexDameon

    RexDameon Active Member Pro Users

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    so still no brokers?
     
  3. KMax

    KMax Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    ugg they are still broken huh :(

    well at least they fixed the important bugs like dual ammo stack in the loot window, info screens displaying correctly when scanning each other, they added color to the progress bar in the construction term.

    I mean come on MA only thing you fixed that was worth fixing this VU was the AMD issue, how about we get some of these important game play snafu's so players can actually play the game, who gives a crap about color coded progress bars dual ammo stacks droped etc if we can't hand in our missions...

    Really get your crap together and fix criticle issues and leave the minor stuff alone for a bit. What is this 4+VU's already and nothing fixed for brokers which should have been working on opening VU with next VU fix if there was an issue argggggg so frustrating sometimes reading these VU updates and all the worthless crap they waste time on.
     
  4. Few Scars

    Few Scars Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator Arkadia Adviser

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    Dev team, why are the Arkoin brokers still out of order?
     
  5. anthonymorris

    anthonymorris Platinum Member Platinum Member Arkadia Adviser

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    Yeah the brokers are well……. Still broken and sorry to be “Johnnykill joy” but I have said from the start if the brokers are not working then the whole thing will fold. And well look what’s happening the arkoin’s have become tt food last value was 100.54 if I’m correct. The success of treasure hunting is dependent largly upon the NPC’s. I will explain for those of you who say “NO its not”.

    Treasure hunting gives items to be able to craft keys, these keys intern are used to run instances, and these instances gives us items and valuable Arkoin’s(at this time not so much 100.54% mu i.e. tt food). Finally these arkoin’s were to be used to purchase item from NPC’s.
    Well you take away any one of these key factors treasure mats, keys, arkoin’s, NPC’s and you have a broken system. This system is broken because the NPC’s have not been added, it’s like if you take the treasure out of the system it will all cease to exist because without the treasure we have no mats to craft keys and no keys means no instances will be ran.

    Who wants to hold onto the arkoin’s for an indefinite time? No one and no one wants to buy them because they have no use or value and it will become dead ped in your storage. So the mu you paid for it will be lost if you have to sell them because you have lackof ped and want to play.
    Who would want to run the instances when there is no return to speak of? Players understand that a loss is expected but really? If the arkoin’s become completely useless then not many people will mine for treasure making the loot from treasure hunting useless as well. The planet profile is “TREASURE HUNTING”and we lack just that treasure. And while yes we have the ability to go mining for treasure, people are looking to sell the mats they get to help recoup the cost of mining and to make a profit hopefully. But if the mu is crap who will mine for the treasure? Truthfully no one.

    Miners, mine to get mats to sell for profit (hopefully), and to recoup the cost of mining so they can……. That’s right MINE. But if there is no mu on the items then the miner will not mine for them.

    Crafters, craft they use the mats the miners get to craft items but if there is no profit in it then they will not buy any mats.
    and yes some will mine for them but most will not because of the double cost/time they will have invested.

    Players buy keys to run instances to get cool items in the loot and arkoin’s to buy cool items from the NPC’s.
    Take away the NPC’s and you have really no reason to run the instances.

    I know people will say, “but you get to loot armors etc.” and while this is true they are looted so rarely that it does not make it worth it to spend the ped to run them. Player’s weigh the pro’s and con’s and then make a choice on whether they are willing to risk the loss or gain. They con’s outweigh the pro’s in this instance so, you will start to see a lack of player participation/interest. Check the mu on the items we use to craft keys, the items you get from the instances, are they rising, falling, are they selling more or less?

    Simply put without the NPC’s up and running so we can spend the arkoin’s gathered the system is destine to fail. Like it or not. It’s like having a cruise ship without a motor you can load it with a lot of people, but once they find out there is not motor how long do you think they will stay? Not very long, and while yes a few will stay onboard in hopes that they will soon get a motor, it will only be a matter of time before they too will abandon ship. but this is just my 2 pecs worth.:shrug:
     
  6. KMax

    KMax Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I 100% agree with this statement, I have done over 50 instances and have personally never looted an item :(

    I also absolutely agree with the rest of your arguement, brokers broken leads to why craft keys when no-one want to buy them which leads to who wants to mine for mats when no crafter wants to buy those to make keys, it all leads to if one thing missing in treasure hunting leads to whole treasure hunting system failing in the long run.

    I think they attempted to stall the effects with the ACA mission broker but guess what they are broken also :(

    Very disappointing indeed....

    Why is MA fixing minor BS bugs when there are MAJOR and that is MAJOR issues that need to be fixed ASAP or people just keep getting more and more F'n pissed off with them.
     
  7. anthonymorris

    anthonymorris Platinum Member Platinum Member Arkadia Adviser

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    Smply put k-max is MA gets paid regardless with every dp or ever ped spent. Why worry? they get paid regardless the only ppl this affects is the player and the PP. I personally would hold MA responsible for any loss I incured in this cluster if I was the PP. It like with my business if one of my food vendors forgets to ship my pepperoni for my pizza and I run out well i'm at a loss because 96% of my sales have pepperoni on them. Who will take the loss me....... but I bet your bottom dollar I will not take a complete loss my vendor will comp me some stuff or I would find another vendor really quick. But MA is different they hold 90% of the cards and David is a victim just like the rest of us.

    But there should be a time where they should say ok enough is enough get it fixed regardless of what you have to do just get it done by such in such date or talke to my attorney. I think there should be a contract clause that would allow some sort of Compensation for a neglect of services provided.
     
  8. Few Scars

    Few Scars Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator Arkadia Adviser

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    There is a huge hold up at MindArks end for some reason, not sure whats going on, but even the Ark team are silent about it. I'm gonna do some real life stuff and spend some Ped when things are fixed.
     
  9. anthonymorris

    anthonymorris Platinum Member Platinum Member Arkadia Adviser

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    what is most disturbing is that the A team is not said much about it. It seems alot of the spenders are taking a break because of this glitch, that cuts into the bottom line of the profits but hey we have more people joining daily. I could not imagine how many 1000's of dollars was wasted on advertising for the big launch of the treasure hunting. How many new players will have to be lost? Before someone says enough is enough? not only new players but old ones as well, many have said they wil not spend ped on the planet until this is fixed. MA does not care they get your money regardless of what planet you spend your ped on the only one going to hurt here is ARK. But only the big dogs can fix what needs fixed.
     
  10. Spike Black

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    They probably won't say much about it in fear of MA sidelining any further dev work for them.

    We were also due to the get the avatar system updated this VU but it didn't happen and we'll probably find out that the brokers are in the dev schedule after that. So my guess is we'll probably see them working in the new year - hopefully I'm wrong.
     
  11. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Balancing has ALWAYS worked the same way since I have joined...

    The code guy writes the algorythm using the specifications as requested.. puts up a scale to show how things will be.
    Tells his boss its not balancing fairly for the players and takes too much away from them.
    Then the balancing manager comes over.. puts his boot on the scale.. lights a doob.. says "you are right it IS unbalanced" "take MORE from the players side" and walks away happy he did his job successfully. (NOTE: he MAY be deaf because he never seems to hear the huge CLANK as the scale falls back the other way when he leaves the room)

    Side Note: for all who have ZERO humor...This is meant as a visual joke so unstress yer puckering strings and have a laugh before going nutz. If you cant visualize it walk away...

    Second side note for all the petitioning peoples..Maybe start one to get a loot balancer with smaller feet or at least one that doesnt wear WWII combat boots all the time.
     
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  12. Cly

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    Just FYI in case you missed it in the other thread - they filled us in on what the actual issue here is:

    Some of the Missions were re-named in the Mission Update that was rolled out, and if I understand it right, that breaks some of the hand-ins (as in, you have the wrong mission now, regardless of what your mission log says).

    So I gather there's some work needing to be done to migrate the progress from the older missions to the new ones, and then they can re-enable the hand ins.

    Hope I understood that right. In short though: ETA is the Content Update.