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Important! Arkadia Underground Deeds Delay

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Discussion' started by Chris | Arkadia, Mar 20, 2014.

  1. krazykat

    krazykat Active Member

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    I bought deeds yesterday and got paid 6 pec today. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to see if the payout is daily, though it looks like it is.
     
  2. Sub-Zero

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    How do you get the money? I bought 1 deed but it says I don't even have another account in ped flow center.
     
  3. Medeina

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    It's through the Ped Flow Center. Maybe you bought the deed after payouts were given out? I think that happened exactly at 0:00 game time.
     
  4. Sub-Zero

    Sub-Zero Member

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    No I certainly bought it before 00:00 game time. But I bought it from a player, could this affect the payout?
     
  5. Milena

    Milena Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    It will be daily coz the payment is like the payments for a landarea ...you own a piece of Underground :)
     
  6. Medeina

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    I wouldn't think that makes a difference, unless there's a bug. Sorry, I haven't a clue why you didn't get anything.
     
  7. Sub-Zero

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    Could it mean 1 deed is below 1 pec threshold? So i need to wait a week or smth to get my first revenue? :/
     
  8. Medeina

    Medeina Member

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    My deeds paid exactly one pec each, so that shouldn't be an issue.

    One thought is, and I don't know if it makes a difference: Would it matter if one keeps their deeds on their person or in storage?
     
  9. Hideo

    Hideo Active Member

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    thats a very good question!
    maybe we need to have them in inventory but would be much better to get paid while in space or another planet with the deeds in Ark storage(or any storage).
    shouldn´t matter where the deeds are... ;)
     
  10. svena

    svena Active Member Pro Users

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    I'm wondering if any dev could comment on what happens to any remainder of the payout below 1 pec. Say if pay out per deed was supposed to be 1.09 pec, what happens to that 0.09 pec?
     
  11. David | Arkadia

    David | Arkadia Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator Planet Arkadia Official

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    As the system can't pay fractions it carries forward and pays in increments of 1 pec, you don't lose anything in the process.

    The deeds pay the same if they are placed in storage and will pay the same no matter where you travel in game.
     
  12. Sub-Zero

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    Thanks for clearing that up for us.
     
  13. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    So, when you say they carry forward... would that be like this scenario:

    (200k deeds, so 2000 ped tax --> 1.0 pec per deed)

    Scenario:

    Day 1: 3000 ped taxes collected --> 1.0 pec paid out per deed (remaining balance of 1000 ped remains in account)

    Day 2: 3000 ped taxes collected (plus 1000 ped left over from previous day) --> 2.0 pec paid out per deed (remaining balance is zero)

    Is that how it works?
     
  14. David | Arkadia

    David | Arkadia Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator Planet Arkadia Official

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    Sort of,

    In broad yes, but an individual could receive all their earnings in a day depending on how many deeds they have.
    So if it worked out at 1.5 pec per deed, then anyone with 2 deeds would get their 3 pec, whilst the person with 1 deed would get 1 pec and have 0.5pec carried forward. So the system pays the maximum it can every day and carries forward any rounding on an individual basis.

    All the earnings from the underground are paid to the deeds, there is no way for the income to go elsewhere.

    Just an FYI, all income on unsold deeds is being directed to further marketing until such time as all deeds are sold.
     
  15. Medeina

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    Cool. Thanks for the clarifications, Dave.
     
  16. AxeMurderer

    AxeMurderer Active Member Pro Users

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    One important question - are they lootable?

    And some not so important - are the money from the sold deeds going 100% to arkadia or some goes to MA. (if you can answer)
    and what are the money from the sold deeds going to be used for? (if you can answer)
     
  17. cid_fletch

    cid_fletch New Member

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    Perfect, thanks
     
  18. the-unknown

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    Got myself 50 deeds for a start.

    I think these deeds may go up in price alot more then CLDs, simply cos the base price is alot more affordable to players, at 50 peds each, compared to 1k peds for CLDs. Even a sweater can get one of these if he spends a couple of weeks sweating.
     
  19. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    Now that we've had a few days to examine the income, it appears that everyone--no matter how many deeds they have--receives the same number of pec per deed. If you have 1 deed you receive 2 pec, if you have 50 deeds you receive 1.00 ped. We can conclude fro this that the balance is either carried forward on each individual deed… or more likely, because it's simpler, the LA has a big balance that only distributes to the 200000 deed accounts when it hits a multiple of 2k ped. I suspect the ped flow center may not be designed to handle fractional pecs. Now… if MA confirms that it is supposed to work the way David said above… since it is in practice NOT working that way, then we really need to confirm with MA whether or not the fractional balance is actually being carried over to the next day. Given my experience this week with MA, I would not be surprised if MA was pocketing these extra peds.

    Does anyone have any contradictory data?
     
  20. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    You don't actually know that to be true.