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Important! Arkadia's take on Advisers and Piracy

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Discussion' started by Cyrus, Sep 22, 2011.

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  1. Cyrus

    Cyrus Well-Known Member

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    Dear participants,

    After several rounds of discussion between the Dave, myself, the moderator team and the development team, we have decided that although being a pirate is not against the EULA or ToU, it is contradictory to the beliefs of the Adviser program that we have first set up to do.

    I have spoken to Stagger with regards to the issue at hand and he has expressed his interests in continuing pirating. He understands the conflict of interest and has kindly asked to be removed from the program. Stagger's Arkadia Adviser vest has been returned first hand and the access to the Advisers forum will be revoked.

    No matter what he is in space, he has always been one of the best Advisers on Arkadia. If he one day chooses to hang up the boots on pirating, the Adviser program is always open for him.

    It is with this that I'd like to thank Stagger for his contributions to Arkadia during his tenure as an Arkadia Adviser and wish him all the best for his future endeavours.

    Once again, I'd like to highlight that no party is right or wrong here as noone is breaking any rules, we just have different beliefs. There have not been any hard and fast rules or guidelines for the advisers, but the program will evolve over time, and this new rule is a first step.
     
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  2. endy

    endy Active Member Pro Users

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    {happy happy face}
     
  3. Great Dane

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    This is an excellent move on the part of the A-Team. Congrats.
     
  4. Puck

    Puck Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    I'll respect whatever decision Cyrus and A-Team hands down, including this one. It was obviously a controversial topic, and could have gone either way.

    Stagger, best of luck in your new career (except if I cross your sights). And a sincere thanks for your contributions to the new arrivals on Arkadia.
     
  5. harmony

    harmony Active Member Pro Users

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    Personally i think Stagger can be both, but i can see that it could cause some commotion that is negative towards Arkadia's reputation. Seems it is handled nicely between Arkadia and Stagger where both parties are happy in the end, and i think that is the most important part, so well done.

    Edit: Hmm i wonder if that message will give me a free passage if i meet stagger in space next time :surrender:
     
  6. Fopsie

    Fopsie Active Member Pro Users

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    Now life can resume to normal here on the forum :)

    Thank you for clearing it up Cyrus.
     
  7. .Xman

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    I think you guys have taken the right decision by taking a position against piracy, Arkadia will benefit from this decision.
    I have no doubts Stagger used to be a good Adviser as he used to be a good ally before his radical change, so what to say ? keep up the hard work Advisers
     
  8. aj502

    aj502 Active Member Pro Users

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    I kind of thought the same thing but as it wasn't my place to say so, I kept this opinion to myself (I actually kept an opinion to myself? wtf?!).

    Didn't want to seem like I'm out to get anyone.
    Nice that there wasn't any big hoopla about the vest thingy.







    Tippin'
     
  9. endy

    endy Active Member Pro Users

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    Why Stagger still has AA tag here on the forum?
     
  10. rick_janson

    rick_janson Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Admins need time to change permissions.. It's not something Cyrus has access to (has to wait for Van, I think he said). So give it a few hours or so...
     
  11. Admin

    Admin Forum Administrator Staff Member PAF Administrator

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    I'll be removing the tag in about 9 hours so he has enough time to say his farewells etc in the advisers private forum.
     
  12. Ravil

    Ravil New Member

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    Good luck with piracy Stagger. Cant wait till seeing ya in space.. and then die.. and then looted :).
     
  13. sneaky

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    So, he was one of the best, no matter what,but been removed anyway.What kind of logic is that?I mean cui bono?
     
  14. Fopsie

    Fopsie Active Member Pro Users

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    Its more todo with certian players on the forum making this into a conflict of intrest and thats why this has happened.

    Had the pirate and knight section not been here I believe this howl situation would have been avoided but its to late now. :surrender:
     
  15. TimUnleashed

    TimUnleashed Forum Official Pro Users

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    He wasn't removed. He chose to leave. Cyrus said he "has kindly asked to be removed from the program".
     
  16. sneaky

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    Agree..very sad that it turned out this way,and more to that - they called it "first step". They are lacking ability to look at things objectively,couldn't let alone their personal ethical issues,very sad indeed.
     
  17. sneaky

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    Kill Them with Kindness :) works for me.
     
  18. Chrome

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    This individual (Stagger) has choosen to actively engage in SHOOTING other avatars in a real cash economy game, KILLING them, and TAKING their stuff.


    These type of actions are undesireable and unacceptable for someone in the position of a community advisor.


    This has nothing to do with personal ethics, it has to do with removing a volunteer community leadership position due to this individual no longer being a positive community leader.
     
  19. sneaky

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    Wich community are u talking about? -ppl could have different opinions.And why do you think he's not being positive? -that's the reson why personal ethics were mentioned:)
     
  20. Stagger

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    Let's just drop my last 2 pecs here in the open community.

    Yes i've been kindly asked to either chose not to be a pirate and stay advisor.
    but i have chosen to be a pirate.

    I do support the decision of David and cyrus.
    However i still do not see why an evil person cannot be an advisor.
    how about all those PK noobs, who join this game to become a killer. they now have nobody to look up to.
    besides that, my space actions had nothing to do with actions on a planet, those were 2 totally diffrent scenario's.

    People were whining about noobs going to space and being shot down by the very same advisor they met on the planet.
    1. i did not hunt arkadian space.
    2. noobs will make other friends that might shoot em down later. its the game.
    3. noobs don't go to space.
    4. noobs don't have anything to lose becuase they don't have anything.

    I'm mad at Xman because he actively made a drama out of me being an advisor.
    ingame he thought it was funny too to "LOL" at me being removed from the status,
    also telling me it's what i deserved. ( i do have screenshots/chatlog to confirm this)

    I'm no more an advisor now.
    There is nothing to hold me back from terrorizing entire space.


    .Stagger


    P.S
    what will happen if advisors meet some noob in space that is going to pk them.
    noob can shoot advisors, but advisors cannot shoot the noob.
     
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