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Most eco weapon for puny (caraboks)

Discussion in 'New Player Discussions' started by Lovefall, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. Lovefall

    Lovefall Deactivated User

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    Hyellow! :)

    Since I'm a free player trying to conquest the world by swunting - one carabok and 10 bottles of sweat at a time, I am looking for the most eco weapon possible for this specific (considering that I'll probably do just that for a loooooooong while).

    So... what's the most eco weapon for puny caraboks?

    What I thought about is that damage doesn't matter; actually probably the lower the better to avoid overdamage on kills.

    For now I use the TT short swords [MANTA K-TT (L)], but just wondering if you think there are more ECO options out there - rifle, pistol, sword, knive, anything it really doesn't matter - my skills are too low to be bothered if I have to restart with a new weapon type. :)

    Thank you a lot in advance for all your answers!

    Cheers,
    Alex
     
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  3. Lovefall

    Lovefall Deactivated User

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    Thank you for the link. :) Opened it, bookmarked it and will start study it. :)

    However, the thing is that I don't really trust yet my abilities in comparing different stats (like for example I'm still quite confused about all SBI thing, about tiering, etc)... compare a melee weapon with a ranged one (where decay is only part of cost) and so on...

    That's why I came with this cry for help, hoping that someone smarter or at least with more experience than me, already did this analyze. :)
     
  4. sinkillerj

    sinkillerj Active Member

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    The dmg/pec and cost tabs take ammo cost into account, so guns arent terribly harder. SIB is a good thing to look for in a weapon even if you loose a tiny bit of eco, it helps you gain skill faster, you can see if you have SIB on a item by looking at its item info in game, it will say something such as "not yet", "never", or "not anymore", if you do have SIB it will say "yes".
     
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    Lizzy Deactivated User

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    sinkillerj Active Member

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    Thanks for sharing this site, had no idea it existed and it seams to be very handy.
     
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  7. TechKen

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    Thanks Lizzy, I had forgotten to bookmark the ranker site, and didn't even KNOW about the armory site... :) got em both now, though.
     
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  8. littleswampymonster

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    Hands down cap tt (L) + z2 sink is the very best.

    2.981 dpp
    damage is 5 to 7
     
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  9. Hideo

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    can u confirm that the amp can be attached to other guns than z-series carbines like it says in the web shop description?
     
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    littleswampymonster Active Member

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    Yah absolutely I used it yesterday on my cap tt (L)
     
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  11. Hideo

    Hideo Active Member

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    did kill two amps on halix and ET calculated an eco of 2.99. didn´t bother with overkill for accurate numbers. used almost 39ped came home with 54ped loot and killed 300 kitties. :biggrin2:
     
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  12. wournos

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    Would you recommend this (on Halix) over Herman ARK-0 (L)?
     
  13. Hideo

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    i would, yea. if you bring a finisher it´s prolly a bit more eco and you don´t need the range of the ark-0 since spawn at formidable is dense enough.
     
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  14. wournos

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    I'm a melee user with a love for power fists and it seems (according to entropedia) that the S.I Psy-blade is about 10+ pec more eco on its own than the Herman CAP-TT + ZX Zinkadus (if that's the correct amp). I used the Herman ARK-0 (L) before I decided to focus on melee. I've maxed out the Psy-blade but not the Herman ARK so I don't know if the Herman ARK would be better (but I have a feeling it's not).

    I should add that I don't know how to calculate dmg/pec. I've been calculating kill cost per mob instead. :happy:
     
  15. Hideo

    Hideo Active Member

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    if your going melee then thats completly another question. :battleroar:

    shortblades.jpg longblades.jpg
     
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    Well, I'm not strictly melee. I can hold a gun with the right end pointing away from me. ;)
     
  17. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    For punies, an "ok" dpp gun that does small dmg (for example 3 max dmg) will be a lot more eco than a high dpp gun which does bigger damage (for example 5 max damage).

    "Eco" for punies comes down to one thing: reducing overkill.
     
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  18. Lovefall

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    I totally agree with this, but while on 4 max damage there are a few options and on 5 max damage there are a lot of options (including the tt items), at 3 max damage or less I hard a hard time finding reliable options - can you recommend one/a few please?
     
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    i´m all in for the hk 110. low damage and fast reload. but i´m no number cruncher. here´s to you
     
  20. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    For 3 dmg, I don't know of any good UL options, but for L, there are toulan weapons. They used to make your screen flash, but perhaps they have fixed them by now?