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Competition Gold Rush 2014 - Hunting Division

Discussion in 'Company Events' started by Dylan | Arkadia, Dec 23, 2014.

  1. slither

    slither Active Member

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    In this game you need to learn to read between the lines. He's clearly saying you'll need to test each instance and figure out which one you think is best for your setup.

    Coins will not drop the same, you're not gonna run a level 1 and get the same coins as a level 10. You're not even going to get the same coins per hour in level 1 as level 10. You may get the same coins per ped spent, but you can spend peds a lot faster in 1 than in 10. Basically the real challenge of this event is organising the keys and choosing which instances to run :)
     
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  2. Grizgal

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    Agreed. Thats not an answer. Unless they are trying to imply that different instances offer different coin chances. If that is the case, they should say so specifically, not allude to it.
     
  3. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I think its great that we aren't spoon-fed. We have an opportunity to investigate and develop a strategy. So its not all just about having the deepest ped card and highest skills (though of course those help).
     
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  4. Grizgal

    Grizgal Active Member

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    But what the response actually means is that it is all about having the deepest PED card etc. They haven't stated it, but it is pretty clear that the higher level instances drop more coins. If this is correct, I am sure I will be corrected.
     
  5. atomicstorm

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    highest level instances drop more arkoins, but this event isn't about accumulating those. There's something else, like pumpkins.
     
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  6. slither

    slither Active Member

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    That some else is coins :) not arkoins, Gold Rush Coins.
     
  7. atomicstorm

    atomicstorm Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    I know, that's what I had just said :p
     
  8. Oleg

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    I understand that you believe that this is the way it works, and perhaps have been told by MA that this is the way it works, but all the empirical evidence suggests that this is not the way it works.
     
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  9. svena

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    Actually, that was the way it worked. Due to a huge backlash when they introduced beacons (key instances) back on caly, the key tt is the only thing returned 100%. I, 5dollar and several others can confirm this along with a post by Kim on pcf some time ago.

    Its too soon to tell how this new change has affected the return. Loot is much more variable which means it will take a lot of runs to be able to see any pattern. All I've been able to tell so far is that you now should kill every mob instead of killing as few mobs as possible.
     
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  10. Oleg

    Oleg Active Member

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    Having the cost of the key as a minimum loot is not the same as having the cost of the key added to the loot.
     
  11. Grizgal

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    I give up. Its obvious that this event is made for Ubers and those who dont play over 8 hours a day, or deposit a truck load are never going to win. Therefore its not for me. Ill leave it there. Thanks for not confirming or answering any of my direct questions.
     
  12. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    So my chance for a prize just went up. Ok then.
     
  13. Ogulak'Da'Dragon

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    Curious if this will have a time limit, been asked multiple time but no firm reply?

    Without time limit it seems it'd be more of a competition of who can be online the longest? What about people with work or school.
    It be a huge disadvantage not being able to play 16+ hours a day, some might not participate due to it.

    No sort of time limit or average pts/hr will be implemented?
     
  14. slither

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    Dave has already confirmed that the original post are all the rules, therefore the time limit is the whole month of the event.
     
  15. Colbey Kal

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    This is a competition. Prizes have a real world value. Of course you will need an advantage of some type to win one of the best prizes. That could be having a huge amount of PED, unlimited time, high skills & gear, or a well planned out strategy. A random person off the street won't win either the Olympics or a chess tournament, that's why they are fun to watch, you get to see people who are exceptional in their field compete. There are lots of obvious ways to be involved with this competition and benefit from it though -for everyone from newbie to Ubers.

    I'm not sure if I really like the rules personally, but I'm huge fan of the A-Team not just copy and pasting from Calypso. I'm excited about the Gold Rush, and seeing how things play out.
     
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  16. atomicstorm

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    My numbers are published in the Songkra Valley thread of the 500+ key runs I did during the first run for the LA. Thus far, I am finding keys 1-7 (but not 6) as ped traps where it is difficult to over come the key loss since the cost of the key CAN ONLY be overcome through globals/hofs on the mobs which for the lower keys are in the pecs. I'm sure David did not want it to be setup like this but unfortunately it has been. If you don't global and HOF in any key, you will be looking at 50-60% return. Before the change, that didn't happen but you also didn't have the ability (very often) to be over 100%. When my 2nd LA is claimed, I will publish the numbers with the new change. You will see that in many cases I had 5-7 globals but didn't break 82% return AFTER the key (TT) but if you remove the key, I was about even.

    In the end, I find that the key cost per level should be cut in half to simulate general hunting, that is of course, if that is the actual intent. If you pay a key fee for the markup inside, then I would say it is where it needs to be but the lower keys need buffed slightly.
     
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  17. Manny

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    The instances were designed with chests in mind, and now that they are gone the HP disparity between mobs makes it really hard to have a steady return.

    I think the A team should re balance the mobs in the instances, replacing the hordes of small mobs with a lower number of higher hp ones. Used to love Aakas runs, but as they are now I just don't see me running them and I guess a lot of other players think the same.
     
  18. Jod

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    Thats exactly the results I've been getting on my test runs(mostly 4-5 keys).
    Its an extremely small sample size for my tests atm but it's been exactly as you say.......
     
  19. KikkiJikki

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    Dont forget you have the option of doing UG instances. Nice and quick with a chest at the end. I regularly looted pirons in the higher level instances.
     
  20. helena

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    this event can be good. but if there is no time limit, it is a big joke.
    it cant be won by anyone with a job, a family, or a life ! only lituanians working 24/7 on eu will come and get all prizes as usual
    so...
    Time limit please !!
    (or at least make the score normalized as mindark is doing with calypso event, like a 30h normalized score whatever ur amount of time in is)
     
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