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Arkadia Underground Deeds - sound investment?

Discussion in 'Arkadia Underground Deeds (AUDs)' started by Ido, Mar 22, 2014.

  1. Oleg

    Oleg Active Member

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    On another planet.

    I don't think the Arkadia team will be taking that route, they are smart enough to realise it would alienate their player base.
     
  2. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    Well, mining in the indoor areas is not all about MU and profit. (Take foma for instance... it's low MU but still very popular). Also, take Sanctuary cove... Kadra and huon have 5% tax yet are heavily hunted.
     
  3. Optimator

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    For what it's worth, my loot has always been better on taxed land compared to tax-free land hunting the same mobs with the same gear. This is on Caly and Ark. Just recently started hunting Huon and Scoria and they've been nice to me so far, though they aren't available on untaxed land afaik so I can't compare.
     
  4. Snape

    Snape Master of the BanHammer Staff Member PAF Administrator

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    If you are hunting Huon, you might want to take some time to read here
     
  5. remontoire

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    Thank you , missed that. Oh well, it reduces some of the revenue that might have otherwise happened. Still, obviously it makes people go there. And hopefully at least some components needed for the vault keys at least come from underground.
     
  6. Gromlick Grom Zul

    Gromlick Grom Zul Member

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    I would like to add that with all of my research on forums and from other players (not sure how true this is) I have found that the taxes on land are not collected from your find but are rather added to the top of your loot and that is what gets sent to the owner. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here.
     
  7. AxeMurderer

    AxeMurderer Active Member Pro Users

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    taxes get cut of your loot, 5% tax get 5% of your loot = lower your returns with 5%. Thats why some people never hunt or mine on taxe lands.
     
  8. Neil

    Neil Adviser Pro Users Arkadia Adviser

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    It's pretty clear at least from my records that tax is taken off the top of your loot. I'm not sure exactly how, since most loot items you can't just take 5% off. I hope there is a system in place that works around these TT per unit of loot issues.
     
  9. Cajhmere

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    Noob Question: Do I participate from glob, hof, ath havin deeds?
     
  10. Gromlick Grom Zul

    Gromlick Grom Zul Member

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    All 3 of those should be subject to the 5% tax also and contribute to the Deed ROI
     
  11. Cajhmere

    Cajhmere Member

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    Second dumb one:

    Havin 1 cld let's say at 25% return
    Havin 20 auld at 5%

    Would that mean 5 auld cover 25% of one cld, the rest 15 auld's are additional income against one cld for the same price of 1000ped?
    Do I make an error?
     
  12. Kalagaraz

    Kalagaraz New User

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    Yes, your error is that percentages do not add.

    1 CLD at 25% is 25% of 1000 = 250 PED

    5 AULD at 5% is 5% of 50*5 or 250 = 12.5 PED
     
  13. Cajhmere

    Cajhmere Member

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    Umm... I think it's 5% return of loot?
     
  14. May

    May Active Member

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    Just saw the first AUD being 'discovered'!

    So off to find the broker. :D
     
  15. Spike Black

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    Not sure any more, after finding that most if not all of the mobs appear to be high hp and low regen.

    I might still buy one, provided they keep them stocked, just to say I've got one.
     
  16. whiteknut

    whiteknut New Member

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    You are also wrong.

    1 AULD give 5% of loot tt (so someone gets 100ped tt loot, the AULD owners share the 5 ped)
    1 CLD gives 25% of REVENUE (so someone spends 100ped, gets 90ped back, 10 ped left of which CLD owners get 25%, meaning 2.5ped)

    CLD owners get smaller % BUT the AREA is much bigger and more popular.
     
  17. Optimator

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    Oh wow, thank you for that. :)
     
  18. Ido

    Ido Member

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    i guess someone instead of getting a 100/100 ped item will get a 95/100 ped item and the 5 ped of the tt will go to the land owner .. not sure how they handle it for the (L) items tho .. maybe the same...

    I dont hof much on taxed land .. can anyone confirm or deny (L) items will come partialy decayed.. or will they come at max TT too ?
     
  19. coz1969

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    Ido, I have had globals and HOFs on taxed lands, and I have gotten both full TT items, and partial TT items. Frankly, I've not noticed a lower return on taxed lands than on non-taxed lands, since the "taxes" come out before the player ever gets their loot. In fact, my biggest HOF was on a taxed land.

    The way I figure it, I plan to buy some AUD's... not sure how many, but I will be buying some. And I will hold on to them. Even if I only earn 2 pecs per deed, per week, that's fine. Why? Because I can sell those deeds at some point down the road, if I want, and still make a profit. (let's face it, deeds are already being sold for +2-5 peds on auc) These deeds will NEVER jget sold for less than 50 peds each, despite some naysayers out there.

    So, is it a sound investment? Sure, if you can afford to have peds tied up within the game. Frankly, anything that I can hold onto that guarantees I earn pecs/peds each week, and only increases in value... that's win-win in my book.
     
  20. Spawn

    Spawn Active Member

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    I agree, and it's better than having a lot of costly items rotting away in inventory doing nothing. Payback is payback.