Ardorjies Crazy Uneconomic Huntinglog on Halix

Note: this is still a draft setup. Input and comments are welcome. Possible will start next week.

We all know the many different threads explaining, questioning and discussing the allimportance of eco(nomic hunting). I am a player from before the days of Opalo and (L) weapons. One of my bad habits is that I am slow at adapting. Not having found the answers I am happy with I deceided to come up with my own test.
I got this idea from a thread on CalypsoForum: Eco, eco, eco fact or fiction?

Location: Formidable Firebase
Creature: Halix (Young - Old)
Armour: None
Fap: Vivo T1 (I want an S.I. Hearts), only fap in between two mobs.
Mission: At the start of this log I am at Halix Stage 3: 0 of 1200.
Weapons: I will explain further on my reasons for chosing these.
1. Castorian EnKnuckles-A
2. Castorian EnKnuckles-1
3. Mux-1 EnergyGlove
4. Mux-2 EnergyGlove
Finisher: MANTA K-1 (L), only when the weapon breaks.
Proffession: Brawler (Hit): 19.6 // Brawler (Dmg): 24.7 // Will post more detailed when I start.

All four weapons are Powerfist. The first is the currect TT-Powerfist of Calypso with an eco of 2,738 Dmg/PEC. Others are respectively ~2,032 / ~1,345 / ~1,140. Note: The Mux-2 EnergyGlove is the third worst economic weapon when maxed, the Mux-1 the sixth.

The setup of Ardorjies Crazy Uneconomic Huntinglog on Halix is a follows:
a) A weapon to hunt with will be chosen randomly.
b) I will only hunt Halix at Formidable Firebase. Almost nothing else untill the test is done to minimize other parameters.
c) I scan every creature prior to attacking using a Chikara InvestaFoe ES300.
d) I will only use the fap in between two mobs. On the odd change that I die, I will return running and finish the job, permitting that the weapon doesn't break first.
e) Every hunt the chosen weapon will be fully repaired and completely broken. On the last mob I use the MANTA K-1 (L).
f) I record the weapon cost, MANTA K-1 (L) cost, medical cost and all separate.
g) I calculate the more exact Eco and Dmg/Sec of the unlimited weapons prior to use using Entropedia WeaponCompare
h) I record the TT-value of each stackable after the hunt separately. Items will be both recorded in numbers looted and TT-value.
i) Globals will be noted down to be possible substracted for clearer results.
j) Music listened too will be noted. (This is important! Music is food for the soul!)
k) I will note the proffession progressions of both Brawler (Hit) and Brawler (Dmg) for each hunt.
l) I will note the amount of Halixes killed per hunt.

On to the reasoning for using these four weapons:
1) I am a Mêlée Hunter and as such this test will be done with Mêlée-weapons. Also easier to calculate the costs I think.
2) There are about 50 different Mêlée-Weapons weak enough to hunt Halix with.
3) Ommit weapons with high TT-value and most Longblades for their high maximum damage.
4) Also take out a few that are too slow.
5) What is left are Shortblades and Powerfist with three SIB-weapons. I think that it is best to use different weapons that all got the same maximum damage. Halix don't regenerate much (if at all) and therefore Dmg/Sec is of no concern. With the same maximum damage all will (in theory) do the same overkill on average.
6) The statistics of these four weapons are:

.	Max. Damage	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC	Eff. Dmg/Sec	Eff. Dmg/PEC
Castorian EnKnuckles-A	6	5,1	2,738	5,14	2,738
Castorian EnKnuckles-1	6	4,6	2,558	3,64	2,032
Mux-1 EnergyGlove	6	6,4	1,693	5,08	1,345
Mux-2 EnergyGlove	6	7,3	1,435	5,81	1,140

Eff. Dmg/Sec and Eff. Dmg/PEC is the effective values at my level. See the Entropedialink earlier.

Conclusion when I am done:
I will make different graphs showing the Average Return (%) vs. Dmg/PEC with and without Medical costs and Globals. If anything can be said about it doing the same for the Dmg/Sec. This is another reason for using four different kinds. With two any type of graph can be made resulting in still no conclusiveness.
If I am not happy with the results (ie. poor correlation in the best graph) and still got my sanity then I will continue with a different kind of creature. (Here's to hoping it will be crystal clear!)

Hypothesis:
Economy plays an important factor in the average return (%) and in what items one can loot.

Ardorj

 

Ooooh, this is exactly the kind of test I like to see . Good luck mate.

 

Wow. nice project here. gluing to this thread haha

 

Good luck m8, I am looking forward to seeing your results

 

I don't want to spoil the ending of the story, just make sure you don't run this log for too long

 

Hahaha, fun idea.

Maybe your inevitable HOF will come when you're being really uneconomical or something. Good luck!!

 

Thanks! I like to see it too yet also fear the consequences for my PED-Card.

Thanks!

Thanks mate! Not looking forward to my first (recorded) <50% return lol.

Spoiler Alert! I will lose many PEDs. I want to do at least Halix Stage 3 and 4, possibly 5 as well. Just a quick calculation: that is 6.000 Halix. Presuming average is Mature-level: 240.000 HP and thus 60.000 HP per weapon. 219,14 PED for the Castorian EnKnuckles-A. 295,28 ; 446,10 ; 526,32 for the other three. If I do stage 5 too the grand total will be ~4500 PED. Could be fun to predict in a poll what it will costs me and what I get back.

Entropia should above all be about fun. These and other kind of tests are what I like lol. It will be interesting to see if there is also a plusside to economichunting. Like a better change for a certain type of (stackable) item or higher globals. Who can tell?

As of yet looking for a Mux-2 EnergyGlove, found one on Action but I actually got outbidded twice lol. S.I. Hearts will also be nice to have. Let's get at least one factor as economic as I can.

Ardorj

 

Interesting, did an eco test on those myself, would be nice to compare the numbers in the end.

 

Thanks and yeah it would be interesting to compare the numbers. Which weapons did you use?

Got myself a S.I. H.E.A.R.T. for some good eco-healing. Last thing I need now is a Mux-2 EnergyGlove. Quint will craft one for me, after I got outbidded by the same person on auction for the third time.

Ardorj

 

Used a CAP-99R with A101 and a Herb Box.
I was at around 93% TT return after about 2000 Halix

 

The first results are in!

Hunt #1: Castorian EnKnucles-1
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	24,7581	19,6558	3,64	2,032
After	24,7930	19,7071
Increase	0,0349	0,0513

Costs:

-	Decay
Castorian EnKnucles-1	17,47649
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	0,12600
MANTA K-1 (L)	0,10875
InvestaFoe ES300	0,81900
Total	18,53024

Halix: 91
Loottable:

Animal Hide	0,70000
Animal Muscle Oil	3,72000
Animal Oil Residue	0,57000
BLP Pack	0,48900
Explosive Projectiles	0,69220
Halix Hide	0,50000
Halix Leg Fur	0,50000
Miluca Timber	3,10000
Nova Fragment	0,00045
Paint Can (Green)	0,77000
Paint Can (Olive)	0,10000
Socket I Component	0,50000
Thin Wool	1,75000
Tier I Component	0,20000
Weak Cloth Extractor	0,04000
Weapon Cells	0,56710
Total	14,9875

Return: 76,625%
Music: No Use for a Name = Don't Miss the Train

Comments: First hunt and off to a ... hope not a sign of things to come. I am not sure if I calculated the decay of the EnKnucles right, will update when I know for sure. I also hunted at another place then I said in the openingpost, forgot the name.
So far for the first hunt with the old Project Entropia TT-Powerfist.

Ardorj

 

Second hunt done as well.

Hunt #2: Mux-1 EnergyGlove
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	24,7930	19,7071	5,08	1,346
After	24,8214	19,7457
Increase	0,0284	0,0386

Costs:

-	Decay
Mux-1 EnergyGlove	19,30917
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	0,02700
MANTA K-1 (L)	0,02175
InvestaFoe ES300	0,69300
Total	20,05092

Halix: 77
Loottable:

Animal Hide	0,85000
Animal Muscle Oil	2,70000
Animal Oil Residue	0,43000
Blazar Fragment	0,00027
BLP Pack	1,16090
Explosive Projectiles	0,14550
Halix Hide	0,40000
Miluca Timber	2,45000
Nova Fragment	0,00126
Paint Can (Green)	0,28000
Socket I Component	0,20000
Soft Hide	0,30000
Thin Wool	0,75000
Tier I Component	0,40000
Weak Cloth Extractor	0,01000
Weapon Cells	0,18230
Total	10,26023

Return: 51,171%
Music: John Zorn = A Classic Guide To Strategy, Volume Three

Comments: At least it's still above 50% I guess. Also don't know if I got the decay on the Mux-1 right, will update when I know for sure. Hunted at the same place as first (will hunt here for the project).

Ardorj

 

On to the third hunt.

Hunt #3: Castorian EnKnucles-1
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	24,8214	19,7457	3,64	2,033
After	24,8655	19,8094
Increase	0,0441	0,0637

Costs:
-

Decay
Castorian EnKnucles-1	17,47649
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	0,04500
MANTA K-1 (L)	0,08700
InvestaFoe ES300	0,85500
Total	18,46349

Halix: 94
Loottable:

Animal Hide	1,08000
Animal Muscle Oil	3,27000
Animal Oil Residue	0,55000
Blazar Fragment	0,00048
BLP Pack	0,13110
Focus Lense Component	0,60000
Miluca Timber	1,95000
Nova Fragment	0,00034
Paint Can (Green)	0,70000
Socket I Component	0,20000
Tier I Component	0,20000
Weapon Cells	0,21230
Total	8,89422

Return: 48,172%
Music: Jamie Saft = A Bag of Shells

Comments: It's getting worse! As previous two I am not sure I got the decay on the main weapon right.

Ardorj

 

Fourth hunt done as well. Now waiting till I buy a Mux-2, that's going to be the weapon for hunt #5.

Hunt #4: Castorian EnKnucles-A
Proffessions:
-

Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	24,8655	19,8094	5,14	2,738
After	24,9276	19,8993
Increase	00,0621	00,0899

Costs:

-	Decay
Castorian EnKnucles-A	16,49409
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	0,08100
MANTA K-1 (L)	-------
InvestaFoe ES300	1,20600
Total	17,78109

Halix: 134
Loottable:

Animal Hide	0,67000
Animal Muscle Oil	3,66000
Animal Oil Residue	0,92000
Blazar Fragment	0,00028
BLP Pack	0,18040
Halix Hide	0,50000
Miluca Timber	2,30000
Nova Fragment	0,00168
Paint Can (Green)	0,56000
Socket I Component	0,60000
Soft Hide	0,10000
Tier I Component	0,40000
Weapon Cells	0,85760
Total	10,74996

Return: 60,457%
Music: Secret Chiefs 3 = First Grand Constitution and Bylaws

Comments: First hunt with the only maxed-out weapon for this project. As with previous hunt, not sure about the main weapon decay, will update when I do know for certain.
Now I need that Mux-2 EnergyGlove for the next hunt.

Ardorj

 

I got the Mux-2 EnergyGlove, pm me ingame when you see me online.

 

I've been using an enblade-a for hunting Halix, some days good - 350% return on a blade and some days bad - 40% return.

I was toying with the idea of switching to the enknuckles-A for skilling as I'm still low on those.

btw I've only ever had apocalyptically bad returns if I log out mid hunt on low end weapons.

This may be completely coincidental, it almost certainly is, but my two halix globals have been while a newbie miner was in my radar

 

Got the Mux-2, thanks Quint! You already know how the first hunt ended héhé.

I am sure to expect a wide range in return. Thought about bringing 3-4 weapons each hunt, but I doubt there are that many EnKnuckles-1 left ingame. That was the old TT-Powerfist before the introduction of the Opalo, then it got replaced by the 'A' version with SIB. Not really a problem, it will just give a larger standard deviation (range).
I think your two Halix globals are indeed completely coincidental, name it the Goldfish-Factor.

Now for two more hunt done yestereve. With the new Mutated species running amock I had to set one more rule for myself: Stay clear of them! Killed four and they will be messing up the results. More hitpoints (on one the Mux-2 broke after ~60% hurt resulting in more decay on the Bukin's Blade) and they don't count towards the mission kills.
Another change I've made is that I now switch to a Bukin's Blade instead of the MANTA K-1 (L), this because I find it easier to calculate decay on unlimited weapons and for consistency.
Third is that I hunt at Dauntless Firebase Academy.

Hunt #5: Mux-2 EnergyGlove
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	24,9276	19,8993	5,82	1,141
After	24,9546	19,9384
Increase	00,0270	00,0391

Costs:

-	Decay
Mux-2 EnergyGlove	26,68064
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	00,01800
Bukin's Blade	00,27200
InvestaFoe ES300	00,68400
Total	27,56464

Halix: 74 (+ 2 Mutated Young)
Loottable:

Animal Hide	0,32000
Animal Muscle Oil	3,36000
Animal Oil Residue	0,48000
Blazar Fragment	0,00118
BLP Pack	0,35620
Halix Hide	1,20000
Miluca Timber	1,95000
Paint Can (Green)	3,99000
Paint Can (Olive)	0,05000
Paint Can (Orange)	0,02000
Soft Hide	0,10000
Strong Cloth Extractor	0,03000
Tier I Component	0,10000
Weak Cloth Extractor	0,04000
Weapon Cells	1,98190
Total	19,97928

Return: 50,549%
Music: Medeski, Martin & Wood = Uninvicible

Comments: Her maiden hunt and off to a bad start. But it can be worse, see next hunt.
Last creature was a Mutated Young that I got down to ~30% and then the Mux-2 broke. As a result the Bukin's decay is rather high.
Also find the decay on the Mux-2 odd?

Hunt #6: Mux-1 EnergyGlove
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	24,9546	19,9384	5,08	1,346
After	24,9872	19,9870
Increase	00,0326	00,0486

Costs:

-	Decay
Mux-1 EnergyGlove	19,35918
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	00,09000
Bukin's Blade	00,08500
InvestaFoe ES300	00,59400
Total	20,12818

Halix: 65 (+ 2 Mutated Young)
Loottable:

Animal Hide	0,68000
Animal Muscle Oil	3,27000
Animal Oil Residue	0,37000
BLP Pack	0,38090
Explosive Projectiles	0,32590
Halix Leg Fur	0,50000
Inferior Cloth Extractor	0,10000
Miluca Timber	1,50000
Nova Fragment	0,00076
Paint Can (Green)	1,05000
Socket I Component	0,40000
Weapon Cells	0,13760
Total	8,71516

Return: 43,298%
Music: Social Distortion = Hard Times and Nursery Rhymes

Comments: Last time I killed a mutated Halix for this test. Got to a different decay on the Mux-1 then in previous hunt, yet still unclear what it should be?
Oh so very clear to new level in both Brawler (Dmg) and (Hit)!

Ardorj

 

Two more hunts this morning. First on the Castorian EnKnucles-A second on the Mux-2 EnergyGlove. The first was cool with three achievements. Level 20 Brawler (Hit), level 25 Brawler (Dmg) and 1600 Power Fist! And gotten over halfway on the Halix Stage 3 too.
Small difference in how I present what I got as well, won't list all te possible items.
The decay on the main weapons remains an oddity I think. Checked Entropedia, on the EnKnucles-A it is right, on the Mux-2 I got a slightly different decay. Will recheck next time. Other weapons not checked on Entropedia yet.

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Hunt #7: Castorian EnKnucles-A
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	24,9872	19,9870	5,14	2,738
After	25,0760	20,1135
Increase	00,0888	00,1265

Costs:

-	Decay
Castorian EnKnuckles-A	16,49409
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	00,17100
Bukin's Blade	00,06800
InvestaFoe ES300	01,07100
Total	17,80409

Loottable:

Animal Hide	0,56000
Animal Muscle Oil	3,51000
Animal Oil Residue	0,76000
Blazar Fragment	0,00015
BLP Pack	0,14930
Focus Lense Component	1,40000
Halix Hide	2,45000
Miluca Timber	1,35000
Nova Fragment	0,00103
Paint Can (Green)	1,12000
Socket I Component	0,60000
Tier I Component	0,10000
Weak Cloth Extractor	0,12000
Weapon Cells	1,37620
Total	13,49668

Halix: 120
Return: 75,807%
Music: The Ex = Disturbing Domestic Peace

Comments: Liked this hunt due to all the smallisch archievements. Don't like the returns yet ...

Hunt #8: Mux-2 EnergyGlove
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	25,0760	20,1135	5,82	1,141
After	25,1218	20,1789
Increase	00,0458	00,0654

Costs:

-	Decay
Mux-2 EnergyGlove	26,68064
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	00,13500
Bukin's Blade	--,-----
InvestaFoe ES300	00,73800
Total	27,55364

Loottable:

Advanced Mineral Extractor	0,09000
Animal Hide	0,52000
Animal Muscle Oil	3,48000
Animal Oil Residue	0,45000
BLP Pack	0,14390
Explosive Projectiles	0,98230
Halix Hide	3,50000
Miluca Timber	2,20000
Nova Fragment	0,00072
Paint Can (Green)	0,84000
Socket I Component	0,10000
Soft Hide	0,20000
Strong Cloth Extractor	0,01000
Tier I Component	0,60000
Weak Cloth Extractor	0,04000
Weapon Cells	0,29330
Total	13,45022

Halix: 85
Return: 48,815%
Music: David Krakauer = Book of Angels, Volume 18, Pruflas

Comments: Doesn't look good yet ...

Ardorj

 

Passed the 1000 Halix already, that's quicker that I first imagined I would. Also got to 2000 Athletics somewhere on the way. Loot was just like the previous hunts the first two, but then got my first profitable one!
I'll also note now whenever an oldskool weapon gets an increase in Dmg/Sec and/or Dmg/PEC.

Hunt #9: Mux-1 EnergyGlove
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	25,1218	20,1789	5,09 (+1)	1,347 (+1)
After	25,1779	20,2626
Increase	00,0561	00,0837

Costs:

-	Decay
Mux-1 EnergyGlove	19,35918
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	--,-----
Bukin's Blade	00,15300
InvestaFoe ES300	00,68400
Total	20,19618

Loottable:

Animal Hide	0,68000
Animal Muscle Oil	2,61000
Animal Oil Residue	0,43000
Blazar Fragment	0,00033
BLP Pack	0,10550
Halix Leg Fur	2,00000
Miluca Timber	2,40000
Nova Fragment	0,00101
Paint Can (Green)	1,12000
Socket I Component	0,80000
Strong Cloth Extractor	0,04000
Tier I Component	0,10000
Weapon Cells	0,34050
Total	10,62734

Halix: 75
Return: 52,621%
Music: Ben Goldberg Quartet = Book of Angels, Volume 13: Baal

Comments: So many Mutated ... starting to get annoyed by those.

Hunt #10: Mux-2 EnergyGlove
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	25,1779	20,2626	5,82	1,142 (+1)
After	25,2436	20,3547
Increase	00,0657	00,0921

Costs:

-	Decay
Mux-2 EnergyGlove	26,68064
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	00,00900
Bukin's Blade	--,-----
InvestaFoe ES300	00,74700
Total	27,43664

Loottable:

Animal Hide	0,83000
Animal Muscle Oil	2,97000
Animal Oil Residue	0,52000
Blazar Fragment	0,00018
BLP Pack	0,15570
Explosive Projectiles	0,49150
Halix Leg Fur	2,00000
Miluca Timber	1,00000
Nova Fragment	0,00011
Paint Can (Green)	3,15000
Paint Can (Olive)	0,30000
Socket I Component	0,20000
Tier I Component	1,00000
Weak Cloth Extractor	0,10000
Weapon Cells	2,82910
Total	18,74659

Halix: 82
Return: 68,327%
Music: The Melvins = Houdini

Comments: Due to my long period of hunting with unlimited oldskool weapons I can look at this return as nice ... even when it is far from it.

Hunt #11: Castorian EnKnucles-1
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	25,2436	20,3547	3,65 (+1)	1,236 (+3)
After	25,3061	20,4424
Increase	00,0625	00,0877

Costs:

-	Decay
Castorian EnKnuckles-1	17,47650
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	--,-----
Bukin's Blade	00,15300
InvestaFoe ES300	00,68400
Total	20,19618

Loottable:

Animal Hide	1,06000
Animal Muscle Oil	4,02000
Animal Oil Residue	0,60000
BLP Pack	2,29770
Explovise Projectiles	0,73810
Halix Leg Fur	2,00000
Miluca Timber	2,40000
Nova Fragment	0,00028
Paint Can (Green)	7,35000
Socket I Component	2,40000
Soft Hide	0,10000
Tier I Component	0,70000
Weapon Cells	6,99570
Total	29,26178

Halix: 84
Return: 157,826%
Music: De Heideroosjes = Cease Fire

Comments: Profit! I can still do it yeah!

Ardorj

 

Earlier today done two with a "normal" outcome. Almost completed Stage 3 now, just 16 Halix short or thereabout. Still way to early to make any conclusion.

Hunt #12: Castorian EnKnucles-1
Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	25,3061	20,4424	3,65	2,073 (+1)
After	25,3618	20,5219
Increase	00,0557	00,0795

Costs:

-	Decay
Castorian EnKnuckles-1	17,47650
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	00,21600
Bukin's Blade	00,10200
InvestaFoe ES300	00,79200
Total	18,58650

Loottable:

Animal Hide	1,26000
Animal Muscle Oil	2,46000
Animal Oil Residue	0,40000
BLP Pack	0,14490
Explosive Projectiles	0,10390
Halix Hide	0,55000
Halix Leg Fur	1,00000
Miluca Timber	1,95000
Nova Fragment	0,00049
Paint Can (Green)	0,56000
Paint Can (Olive)	0,05000
Socket I Component	0,20000
Tier I Component	0,30000
Weak Cloth Extractor	0,03000
Weapon Cells	0,85920
Total	9,86849

Halix: 85
Return: 53,095%
Music: Erik Friedlander = Grains of Paradise

Comments: Only got the screwy leftovers from paradise ...

Hunt #13: Castorian EnKnucles-A

Proffessions:

-	Brawler (Dmg)	Brawler (Hit)	Dmg/Sec	Dmg/PEC
Before	25,3618	20,5219	5,14	2,738
After	25,4452	20,6405
Increase	00,0843	00,1186

Costs:

-	Decay
Castorian EnKnuckles-A	16,49409
S.I. H.E.A.R.T.	00,27900
Bukin's Blade	00,01700
InvestaFoe ES300	01,08900
Total	17,87909

Loottable:

Animal Hide	1,44000
Animal Muscle Oil	3,90000
Animal Oil Residue	0,67000
Blazar Fragments	0,00024
BLP Pack	0,20270
Explosive Projectiles	1,21000
Halix Hide	0,75000
Miluca Timber	1,15000
Nova Fragment	0,00126
Paint Can (Green)	0,28000
Socket I Component	1,50000
Soft Hide	0,10000
Strong Cloth Extractor	0,01000
Weak Cloth Extractor	0,04000
Weapon Cells	0,44630
Total	10,61150

Halix: 121
Return: 59,351%
Music: Dead Kennedys = Frankenchrist

Comments: Freaky!

Ardorj