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PVP on Arkadia

Discussion in 'PvP' started by Simon, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. Simon

    Simon New Member

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    Howdy peeps!

    Since pvp is one of my main proffesions, i wonder how PVP will be on Arkadia?

    Ofcourse i would love all wilderness to be PVP and the towns to be safezone, but i understand most dont agree :p

    Anyway. Will there be any PVP areas? Any lootable areas?

    I would LOVE to see something similar to pvp4 but much more improved. Smaller, some vehicle restrictions etc.

    What do you guys think?

    /Simon :surrender:
     
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  2. calemus

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    i dont know anything about pvp simon

    do you hunt players and take their loot?
    or just spend countless hours killing people walking past?
     
  3. Simon

    Simon New Member

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    Iam hunting miners/PVPers in PVP4 where you get their loot if you kill them.
    Iam a rigger, defending rig and gathering oil.
    Iam participating in all PVP events i can.

    And sometimes when i feel a bit evil i can pop a cap into a traveller :p

    So iam basically doing anything PVP related :)
    Iam a miner and hunter too, but i find PVPing the most enjoyable and exciting in EU :)

    /Simon
     
  4. Larkin

    Larkin Platinum Member Staff Member PAF Senior Mod Platinum Member

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    Oh Simon, always about the PVP ;) It's a very legitimate question though, one that needs to be explored.

    In my opinion, there needs to be a few different lootable PVP zones. One should be like PVP4, where there are no restrictions. However since everyone just sits in Pitbulls nowadays, there should be a lootable PVP zone that restricts vehicle access. Bring PVP back to basics; Player vs. Player, not hide in vehicle vs. I'm not going to shoot 30 ped of ammo to destroy your vehicle and then loot 3 ped off of you.

    I'm hoping that all PVP areas will have unique and rare resources that can't be found anywhere else in the Universe .

    As well, make some other incentives to go into PVP areas! PVP4 IMO isn't worth going in as a miner atm. I can find better places to mine and not risk losing it all. Lootable PVP is about going big and risking everything to get some precious resources (or maybe something else that's valuable to a player). Make it so!

    Simon's not a camper ;)
     
  5. Telgard

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    I'd like to see a totally pvp continent with destructible terrain that you can't shoot straight through to kill things ...or be able to kill things out of sight or hidden behind things.


    PvP Towns with quests, stores, and terminals.
    Teleporters have revive terminals integrated into them and have pvp-free ring around them.
    If Vehicles blow up, they drop all stackables.
    Smart AI within pvp zones; Hunting down players.
    Rare resources more common in these zone but not ridiculously common. ;p
    Reasonable line of sight killing; If your computer can't handle it, lower your graphical settings or get some alienware.
     
  6. Atlan Leticron

    Atlan Leticron Active Member

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    You want to loot big on miners who are not hunters/pvp'ers in general and want them to risk big.
    However you don't want to shoot a vehicle first.
    Eh, a little selfish don't you think?
    No restrictions in pvp I say, you want them to risk big, give them a chance to protect themselves with a vehicle instead of letting them skill up in hunting and buy expensive gear.

    If people can behave themselves, I don't have a problem with pvp all over the place.
    But since a lot simply can't do that, keep pvp restricted to a few places.

    If I go out exploring or mining, I don't want to deal with some kid who thinks he is Rambo.
    And absolutely don't want to spend PED on it.
    If I want to pvp, I go to a fort event.
    For me it's just fun on the side and with the 10% rule a fun affordable hobby.

    I can understand that some people want pvp everywhere, but there are also a lot of people who don't like pvp at all.
    So keep a balance and keep pvp only to restricted area's and events.


    Just my thoughts.

    Regards,
    Ion
     
  7. dude

    dude Active Member

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    I prefer not to have PVP everywhere. I am sure Simon has a moral code and follows some unwritten rules about PVP. But not everyone is like that. Waiting till a player has a mob half dead just to kill them and then take there mob is not right and never will be. PVP has it's place and should be part of every planet.

    P.S. the above statement does not point fingers at anyone in particular just rehashing what I read in the past on EF
     
  8. KillerDawg

    KillerDawg Active Member Pro Users

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    Personally, I would rather not have any feel free to steal from other player zones anywhere. Yes, I view it as legal thievery and it illegal irl even though it is ok by the rules of the game. I would not steal your things irl, why should I do it in a game, especially one that cost as much money to play as EU, and it's your or my hard earned dollars that go into it. So if you gotta have pvp areas, make them all require a toxic shot or whatever so I don't accidentally stroll into one of them. Besides if I want pvp, I'll crank up the never fail FPS so it is an even playing field that takes some skill, not aim at the ava's name that you can't see and fire away.
     
  9. Simon

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    When i was new to the game and only mining, i loved going into PVP4 looking for rare ores, and the fact that i could lose my ore made it so exciting and thrilling, there still was ways go get away from the PKers.

    Its not about stealing or pissing people of, its about the most exciting and fun part of the game. Both for miners and PKers.

    There aint such excitement when i go to PVP4 to mine anymore, or PK for that matter, wich is really sad.

    Just sayin' :D

    /Simon
     
  10. Larkin

    Larkin Platinum Member Staff Member PAF Senior Mod Platinum Member

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    Lol I'm no pker, I'm a miner. Again, it's called player killing, not shoot a moving fortress for 5 minutes until it explodes, then kill the player :D. Rare resources won't maintain high MUs if there is no risk to get it.

    Yep very true. I hope there are only certain places with PVP enabled (I'm sure there will be).

    You need toxic shots for all lootable PVP zones. So that's all covered :)

    Agreed completely :) Nothing beat the rush of going into PVP4 pre VU 10 to find Blood Moss. 1 hit and I would break even on a run (as long as I could get out of the zone!). It was fantastic. PVP4 now is nothing like it. I wish we could go back to the old PVP4 lol.
     
  11. XeroX

    XeroX Active Member Pro Users

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    hmm the Cyrene guys announced that they will have some heavier pvp focus so maybe it would be better to move away from them in that aspect. It's hard to tell untill Cyrene is out ofc but I wouldn't like to see Arkadia AND Cyrene with a heavy PVP focus...
    well only time can tell I guess and ofc there should be some PVP zones arround but only a small ammount of the total land.
     
  12. Dan59

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    EU first planet had story about humans sent from Earth to fight against robots and wild life on planet and was not meant to fight each others.
    EU newer had PvP excpet in trade.
    No dueling.
    No fight.
    With rare exceptions is only matter who shoot first and fight end in one or max two shoots with tiered weapons.
    Most kills happen in PKer versus Victim mode.
     
  13. Calin

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    Personally have no interest in PVP in EU at all. I think other games are much better suited for it. I'd be perfectly happy if there was no PVP of any type anywhere on Arkadia.
     
  14. Lazz

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    Im tottaly with u here Calin ;)
     
  15. harmony

    harmony Active Member Pro Users

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    Couldn't agree more!

    Although it isn't too annoying on calypso, i just avoid the lootable pvp, and in normal pvp i hardly ever get shot at.
     
  16. Larkin

    Larkin Platinum Member Staff Member PAF Senior Mod Platinum Member

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    If Arkadia really does want to be a complete planet, they will have at least 1 lootable PVP zone IMO. While some of you make not like it, I know a lot of others that do. They would just be cutting off potential people from coming to their planet. I like the high MU resources that I can find in lootable PVP. It helps me profit :D
     
  17. Spike Black

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    The only time I ever ventured into the lootable pvp area I died - no toxic shot. I've been in the other areas on Eudoria and never saw anyone.

    Part of the reason I've never pvp'd was the poor combat model of EU and it's still poor in comparison to a true fps so I'll never be tempted especially if I have to buy my own ammo ;)

    Having played CS and UT, EU seemed reallllly slow and still does. I'm amazed it's taken them this long just add full speed strafe and why can't I kneel or lie down?

    If they had made the pvp fort events totally free (except for the ticket) i.e. no ammo use, no armor decay, with revival at full hp and not the 1/10th cost then I would take it more seriously.
     
  18. Teiwaz

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    I don't have much interest in PvP, but there are people who do - PKers and miners.
    I think PVP should be designated areas, where you can enter or not.
    Just please don't do entire continent as PvP with Land Areas safe zones...

    That made me laugh at first, but sadly I witnessed lots of that 'kids' playing in bugged areas.
     
  19. MindStar9

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    I'm not a huge advocate of PvP, but it can be fun, and I know there are many who enjoy it. However, I'm definitely not a fan of having PvP in open (non-designated) areas where people just want to explore and enjoy the environment, whether hunting, mining, or whatever, where a PK'er can come along and spoil the fun.

    I'm in agreement that there should be a designated (lootable) PvP zone, as well as regular PvP zone. The lootable zones make it an exciting adventure for some, and a challenge to survive and get out with the goods before being preyed upon - to them it's an adrenaline rush. In the regular PvP zones, like at the rig on Calypso, battles can ensue, or king of the mountain if you will, and makes for fun as well.

    What I like to do is host Total Chaos PK Events in the ring during radio shows, and I will be doing that once again. I've been known to hold up to 12 events in one night, and each session comes with a prize. I never ask for donations, but everyone has such a great time that many have contributed the prize to additional ring sessions. It's a last person standing scenario, and it's lots of fun to see as many as 30 people at a time in the ring battling it out. Oh, did I mention ... that only TT weapons are allowed. :p

    Anyway, I think PvP will always be a part of the game, and something that many have fun with, but we also know that there are those who abuse this feature, and that's a shame.
     
  20. Larkin

    Larkin Platinum Member Staff Member PAF Senior Mod Platinum Member

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    Agreed. ......