Seriously people?

I know we are all excited about getting treasure hunting but I was seriously stunned when I saw most of the stuff on auction you guys started to sell at TT.

That is just gonna kill the TH prof right from the start buy allowing the dam resellers and auction hounds dictate what prices are going to be..

Jack that shit up people and let the market decide not the shitbird resellers. If you cant afford to hold this stuff til the market stablizes and finds its priceing just stop and wait til it does.. you are slitting your own throats by starting something new at tt.

Im not sayin sell at k's of % MU but TT start bid is stupid. The cost of TH mining is high to start.. making this stuff not worth anything day one hurts everyone but the resellers in the end. Think about what you do not just your ped card please as this is going to hurt yourselves and fellow miners.

 

Some of the stuff doesn't really have any MU value until the bps turn up to use them. So what u gonna do? Hold lots in storage?
Once the demand is there the price will go up.

 

Well kikki Ill do this...Not say a word more about this..when the bps start to drop and you craft them with 105% mu stuff Ill screenie what MU you put these new and shiny things on sale for.. Ill bet my left nut it wont be for less then 200% for the first ones you put out and dam sure no where near 110%ish to be reasonable for what you surely will be snatching the materials up for.

Oh btw about that "I need to MU more" for misses to make up loss...Well hunters dont get to add their missed shots to what they have to sell their oils for and miners dont get to add how many nrf we get to MU since crafters are at the top of this chain.

Lets see what you crafters are all about...the community or greed and your own ped cards at the cost of our losses along the chain.

Hows that for a deal?

 

Rofl, it's not like people are selling rugaritz for tt. Those materials are lysterium and similar materials... You can always mine more.

 

The cost of TH mining is like the rest of the mining costs. 110% of looted TT.

So nobody can really hold onto globals and hofs of common materials in the hope to sell them at high prices. People need peds to recycle again and find more stuff, if you happen to have vast ped amounts to buy new probes, please stock up on everything you find and wait for better prices

 

OK so you are saying that miners should ask for higher markups, but crafters can't? Seems a bit strange to me.

Over the coming days we'll probably see lots of treasures selling for 105% or less, simply because there is no reason for crafters to craft with it, other then to prepare for instances or hoping for blueprint drops. Treasures might be used to craft residue though. Now this doesn't have to be a bad thing, only the term 'treasure' is a bit strange for tt stuff.

 

I'm always happy to discuss my pricing, either as a general policy or for specific items. If I am in a position to sell new gear then I will assess the market at the time and also my cost to produce and pick my selling price and if it happens to be for more than it cost to make then that will make a nice change. So far with around 72k ped of sales through my shops, my net profit, taking into account only the cost if ingrediants is approximately -9%. Most of what I sell is at below cost because thats where the market is at and my primary goal is not profit (not that I would mind turning a profit). If I was greedy, I sure as hell wouldn't be crafting on Arkadia.

When I hunt I look at the market for my loot and I sell to the current market. Obviously I would like to sell all my stuff for 110% or more to account for misses and decay and such. But that's not how it works, I'm happy if I can get over 105% for oils, basic leather doesnt sell at all and I craft it for skills and then usually TT the result. If I am lucky or smart then I loot stackables or items with good MU and sell for what people will pay. Crafting is no different. I assume (because I don't do it often) that mining is the same.

There is really no need to paint any one as the villians here. Sure there are occaisonal profiteers but they are in the minority in my view.

Regards,
KikkiJikki

 

WHat is this topic about?

Every player can easily mine the "treasures" tooth. As long as there is more supply than demand... why would ANYONE pay more? Seriously... what you want to achieve with this thread? Drive prices up for a resource that no-one needs and everyone loots?

Sorry, I don't get it, please explain.

 

I would just like to say that Cyborg. I agree that a lot of crafters will be selling new items at high MU to begin with.
But you picked on the wrong person there with KIkkijikki. In general i find his prices to be very reasonable and most below daily weekly MU.

Just my 2 pecs

 

That it exactly what is happening, the market is decideing the price, no demand, no markup.

 

Greetings,

well at the moment it holds a bit still as some loot for the clothes blueprints lack of existence.

Almost all clothing blueprints are on auction now just some caps and boots have been tailored.

Some Arkadian Keys have been crafted to fish more prints but they have no demand yet. That was a chance for all who already knew where to find the key blueprints resources until the print fishing is over and knew who got the prints.

Some furniture is available though not everyone owns an appartment or has an appartment without furniture.

So sales of the resources for TT wont harm people who have these resources on stock right now if they are patient and are not in a hurry. The sales will more suit pure coin collectors who use the situation to stock up or opportunity dealers who cover their usual activity deficits to refinance a part of gameplay.
Crafters could get resources for TT and maybe profit on crafts but i wont worry about that. These stocks will get used sooner or later.

The resulting advises could be:
- Do not treasure hunt if you cant afford to be pioneer and wait for sales.
- Only treasure hunt if you are aware what is where to find to target that.
- If you want to do it randomly to speculate for a SOOTO be prepared to wait for sales of your resources or have a good limit on your plastic card

I did some probes to research the system as I lack in experience with the profession system for now.

Nothing to worry at the moment. Relax and enjoy the update.

Solo

 

I have put most of my double clothing bps on auction, as they are not craftable yet.

we are still missing many matterials need to craft most of the new clothing bps.

I have crafted over 20K clicks of the clothing bps that can be crafted. and put the items on auction to share for all

once i can craft the other clothing bps, i will put all them on auction as great prices for all too

Loving the update. and ark's new looks

Princess.

 

Which ones do you have?

I see at the moment no prints of princess.

Or do you have another avatar name?

We can have a look at the resources.

Greets,

 

btw i have seen that some blueprint (ACA/AS Civilian Jungle Singlet) needs Halix Leg Fur.

I can say I have been hunting Halix for about 20+ hours since the update and not looted that.

Is this loot not available at all I got to edit my post above ofc.

Solo

 

Hi Guys,

I'm looking into why these items seems to be scarce as they are intended to be common.

Regards,

Chris

 

Ok Cyborg.... I'll put ALL my stackables in auction for 150% MU. You ready to buy them? Supply/Demand ALWAYS determines MU around here. GONE ARE THE DAYS of selling something new for 100x what it's REALLY worth... sorry about your luck pal...

Menace

 

I am sorry you are still frustrated over the races.. please poke a stick at someone else as This is off topic and unnecessary..

 

IMO, if the treasure system is all about clothes only.. it was a huge waste of dev time
I'll do my last 500 drops tonight & then I'm ready to give up on it

 

Huh? It clearly isn't only about clothes.

 

then what is there besides the 10 key bp's which seems to follow the calypso blp amp bp monopoly?
Don't get me wrong, I hope i'm totally wrong, but atm I must confess, it's the 1st time in my EU carreer that I feel everything is 'worthless' & I'm ready to ****.
Does turnover matter anymore?
I cycled +6k ped unamped TM only for what 3 lame globlas & a TT return of less then 70% untaxed
What other bp's have you seen drop?
I did my fair amount of clicks on the Tailiblazer boots bp (qr41)
I got like 4 ul bp's wich none of is clickable due to not looting issues.
Even if they where sellable, did it really need a 1.5 ped/click system to keep this going. Was the animal hide + wool combo that hard to use..
The keys are nice, but are there instances?
For me, this is an intentionally setiing of mu by the gamedevs.
They knew the instances where not ready so they very well know what result it will have under current conditions
(all cld's recently got sold so ppl don't have 50-100k ped on card to play a few months while holding onto loot, because of this they know ores will remain cheap for the crafters. In the end, my conclusion is that IF this TM system only caters towards tailoring & instances, average markup of the loot will soon be less then mining ores or enmatters, & this for a system that actually costs more.

Das