Removal of Safe Zones in PVP Space between Arkadia and Moon

A fellow player was the first to ask support whether the complete removal of safe zones was intentional. The answer seems yes, this was not an oversight:

http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/f...-Leaving-Arkadia-puts-you-into-lootable-space

I am not making a judgement at this time. Just thought the topic should be brought over here where officials could chip in if needed for clarification.

 

This suxx ... i left the Planet to go to Space Station for a warp and my ship was shoot down.
Funny, my divine keept me alive and in this moment another one killed the "pirat" - so noone was shootin at me anymore but still....

Not a wise move.

 

Here are the deets on the matter I got as an advisor;

This is not supposed to happen. Players are supposed to arrive in safe space (Arkadia SS), not into PVP. Through the grapevine I heard that this happened before with Toulan (correct me if I'm wrong here) and that was fixed.

The A-team has been working hard to get everything working as it should.

 

Is that in regards to leaving the planet, or the moon?

There really needs to be some official clarification. Thanks for sharing what you were told, though.

 

It is upon leaving planet Arkadia for space, I am not making any comment regarding leaving the moon as I forgot what was said on that matter.

 

lol

 

I really hope this moon isn't a big pvp thing. There's only a fraction of players who do pvp, most of us hate it.

 

I probably expressed it badly in the title of this thread. I landed within minutes of the update ready and haven't left since, knowing the whole extent of the mess only from chatter about it.

Fact is: No existing safe zone was removed, but the spawn point upon leaving the planet was moved away from it.

It also seems as if the new moon wasn't given a safe zone of its own, although the space map shows a blue circle around it. The map doesn't distinguish any marked region to show if it's safe or not.

These are two different things we'll like to know whether they happened on purpose or not and will remain or not. Discussing consequences if yes should come only after that.

 

hmm... sounds like a bug... suspect there should be a safe zone as there is around Monria... read that the new moon won't show up on map til you go there first, so makes one wonder if there's something odd where old map and new map coordinates aren't lined up or something?

 

This is very off putting for me. And here I was all set to go to the moon and spend a few weeks exploring. Guess that will have to wait until after Ark Team gets a few things ironed out. Personally I feel there should be even a small safe zone around the moon so that you can at least get to space without being shot down before even being able to see it.

 

Spawning into PvP is clearly a bug as it's different to the behaviour experienced anywhere else. It has happened elsewhere in the past and been corrected.

Not being able to TP safely back to the planet is a much more significant issue. If this really is a deliberate choice, it's an idiotic one. I didn't bother going to the moon yesterday because I heard about that, and will never hunt there if it remains the case.

In short, it should work exactly like CP and FOMA do.

 

If this is intentional and it is because of smuggler missions, then I would like the option to return my smuggler clothes for ped.
I hate space, I don't like its "gameplay" and wearing smuggler clothes would make me a part of it, which I don't want to be. Either that or fix the safe zones.

 

This should not be such a big issue, because:

If you leave Ark to go anywhere it is either by:

1. Mother ship - you get "beamed up" so no problem ?
2. You fly yourself up - in which case it was your choice to take lootables with you (as always been before). Only down side is whilst space is loading / buffering you are a sitting duck now for pirates, looking to waste ammo.

Leaving the Moon, that is a different story, but some of the Mother ships are doing hourly runs, so just get a ticket ? until it is fixed or contract someone like Morgoth to clear the route for you ?

In addition, no one is forcing you to go to the moon, if you do not feel up to the risk or fail to mitigate it, then it was your decision (if you were heading somewhere else fair enough, but again, don't take lootables in to space)

 

guess the pirates don't own too many ark moon deeds? Otherwise they'd let em all in and then just attack if they try to leave.

Wonder if Mindark cut a deal with A-Team to let them get decay on the ships in the part of space between the moon and the planet? If so, might explain why some forum posts and chatter in game seems to indicate the way it was set up was on purpose?

Back when Rocktropia first started Neverdie hired pirates to keep people busy in space around RT... wonder if that's what's going on here now with the A team hiring?

 

You can't leave the moon via mothership, since there is no docking. And with the TP to the planet disabled, your only way out is to take your quad, get up in space, get killed while you are loading space, revive, repair and then move onwards.

Don't know why, doesn't sound enticing to me

 

I think the developers who've spent months working on it, and the people who've paid money for deeds, would probably prefer it if people did though.

 

I do feel bad for the devs if this was not intended - MA is horrible at implementation, communication, and other words that end in "ation"
If it was intended, I say boycott the moon.
Also... if it's a "bug" then I say ban pirates who are then exploiting a known bug. I'm serious, that may sound funny, but it's honest straight up logic based opinion. If it's not set up the way it's intended and people are taking advantage then - ban.

 

Leaving Arkadia indefinately.

 

Dear A Team

Please get this crap fixed. You are killing your income as well as my deed income.

Thanks

 

My guess here is that it is just a big bug that they need to work on to fix. Until that time I'm not going to the moon. I really want to see it, but can wait for the fix.