Competition Gold Rush 2014 - Hunting Division

It all boils down to how bad you want it...

 

There are ways to optimise peds spent for points gain. Or to look at it another way, you can spend a shitload and get a relatively low total compared to others playing smarter.

 

10mil sounds way too much for first place. that's what, 400 keys? thats a loss of upwards of 80k?! I doubt too many are willing to gamle that hard. But we'll see!

 

If some hunt 24/7 from First day gona lose 100k+ peds, so is better to buy after event over then risk

 

Not sure what changed today... but no more 5k coins droping in the last 7 keys
Any officials around to comment?

Edit: 8 keys without looting any 5k coin

 

I think its just a matter of luck, I looted 2 in the same run today.

They still drop

 

David, with all due respect, you are mistaken.

I have completed several hundred keys, and have kept meticulous records I'd be happy to share with you. These records clearly show massive PED loss corresponding directly with the key TT.

Regardless of your intentions for this event, it's obvious that some mistake has been made by your staff, or by Mindark in the design of the systems utilized in this contest.

This fact can be verified by you or your staff with only a few hours of simple testing.

Had you designed the event the way it works now, I think we'd all accept that. However, your assertions of key value return do little more than inflame a community that is doing it's best to negotiate the system as it exists now.

 

^True.

^Here is my assumption: A-team comes up with the design (this also includes graphical designs such as mobs), algorithm and code. MA reviews A-team's work and gives the final 'approval' for commitment of the code/change. So, if David is telling the truth, then MA is the one to blame for scamming the entire Ark community.

^Seen some people who gave up on the event because of two main reasons: 1) High entrance fee (instance key). Imagine doing 50 Aakas 10 instances (normal assumption for a competitive player, or other instances equivalent to 50 Aakas 10), that's 200*50=10K PED=$1,000 USD gone out of EU and MA knows whose pocket. 2) Insufficient event rules for a slightly more fair/balanced event.

Event was flawed from the beginning, when Aakas was first introduced. Key TT is NOT included in loot.

 

To be clear, in the old Aakas, your key TT was part of your return.

However, with the recent changes of the mobs to shared loot and the removal of the chest, the key value is lost. Everytime. Every key. All day long.

To test this I suggest running a single Key 1. Should take you about 20 minutes. The problem will be obvious.

 

Its correct and well put, this event is a pedsink like nothing I ever tried before. All the rares in the loot is gone like golden key parts that had MU to cover keycosts. On top of that I cant see any reason why on DC you have to be thrown out of the instance and lose the full key (the mechanics of staying in instance works in MM)

The idea of nonstop grinding for a month under those circumstances is tough.

Conscider this constructive criticism since the event has many levels and is very well thought through in other ways.

/Linz

 

No one who has done any keys can dispute your findings but its who is responsible that matters.


Either MA contacted Ark or vice versa but they wanted a better solution to people dropping out and losing everything so the decision they came to was to give loot in increments rather than just at the end,This isn't a very liked decision(I'd prefer chests) but its what they went with.

Once that was decided it should then be MA's issue to make it work.
They handle the loot and the 'balancing'.
They would need to decide what has to be adjusted to include the key value and they clearly have that wrong.


Every one doing the instances are seeing what you are its just who is responsible for it.

 

The perfect silverlining for this event would be some golden runs (many should be possible since so many aakas runs) and the MU from the parts would make it worth the expensive keys. Its really a shame they are not dropping.

I will finnish this event anyway Ive swimmed to the middle of the lake, cant walk back. But its still not too late to make improvements for all the hunters in the instances.

Regards /Linz

 

afaik there was this same flaw in the instances when they were first introduced. at first the key TT was not included in loot, and this was later changed but now after this overhaul again is not included. maybe a bug returned which was thought to be fixed.

 

In the old key 1, you would open the chest and get back part of the key TT. It was obvious to anybody paying attention due to the ratio of key TT cost to amo used to run the instance.

I only use the key 1 as an example. I ran hundreds of keys in the old system and can tell you this with absolute certainty.

Anybody who was then or now insisting that the key TT wasn't part of the return of the old system is mistaken.

Because of this past lunacy by ignorant players, it's now much harder to alert arkadia staff of this new very clear and present problem.

Thanks so much guys for creating the pool of angry ignorance and low-information posting that we must swim in today to try to resolve a real issue.

Thanks for crying wolf so many times you idiots. Now they won't listen when there really is a wolf.

 

Oh come on, the instances have had terrible returns from the start.
Yes in the beginning the key was compensated with one of the chests, but back then the mob loot was turned down. So you had to kill as little mobs as possible.

Now the key value isn't returned and you have to kill as many mobs as possible.

In both cases you'll loose your peds a lot faster then with regular hunting due to the shockingly low tt returns.

They didn't do anything about it in the past, they won't do anything about it now.....

 

Harmony,

It's much, much worse than it was under the old system, I won't even attempt to type as many much worses as it would take to accurately get that across. I made my support case during the first few days of the event, no answer yet and I'm assuming they won't even bother till after the event. You can argue about whose fault it is if you want but honestly, to change the instances right before an event and not even bother to check and see if they were working correctly is a huge mistake. David repeatedly telling everyone it's ok when it's clearly not is just stupid.

I believe Hideo is technically correct, in the first month or so of their existence it was almost this bad, the reason it is worse now is because the boss mobs can flat out no loot or nova.

 

Mate wtf is your problem?

Not one person here has disputed what you have said about returns and the Key TT value.
What they have disputed is that at the very beginning they were just as broken then were 'fixed' and became 'broken' again after the last change.

Who's crying wolf?

I'll tell you where I see a pool of angry ignorance......
I get it,your pissed off.
I'm not happy either but your attacking the wrong foe.

So save your insults and take it out on the people responsible instead of the people that are in the same boat as you and are also trying to get a resolution.

 

I have done several keys also and have enough data to prove that not only the key TT is not returned, but even loot is super low.
I have over 40 screen shots of up to 38% no loot mobs.
This means that in 300 mobs killed up to 114 can be " No looters"
It is definitely a money grab that more than likely will be investigated.
I have 12 keys left and those will be ran average 1 or 2 a day now, just to finish this BS.

On another note... Not a single lost key as been returned or even replied to the cases.

Also where is that " arkoin auction" mentioned?
Arkoins only droped the first 3 days and now after 5am until maybe 5:30 or 6 am

I want to know if this is MA or Ark robbery!

 

MA is in charge of the lootsystem. So MA I guess