SI Heart. Not Eco!

Discussion in 'New Player Discussions' started by senderan, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. senderan

    senderan New Member

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    I see alot of oeople trying to sell the Heart Fap from Cyrene telling noobs that this fap is the most eco ingame for noobs.
    This is false. The heart have no Sib and is not maxed until....14 i think.

    So do not use this fap till much later if u want to be eco.
    Rather use herbbox that is maxed at 2 till you can use something better efficiently.

    Thank you.
     
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  2. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I agree with this sentiment except I would go further and urge new players to stick with the TT fap (on ark this is the gyro-fap2) until you have the herb box maxed (lvl 2.2). At level 0, the gyro gives u more than twice the healing per pec as the herb box. At level 1 its around 15% more effective.
     
  3. Mordrell

    Mordrell Active Member Pro Users

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    Never thought about it like this before, but ofc when maxed its the best for between mob fapping. Personally I don't like the low tt of the herb boxes and carying 3-4 of them on me doesn't appeal to me at all.
     
  4. KikkiJikki

    KikkiJikki Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I carry four herb boxes. Not really an issue as I quite like them for non-combat fapping. In a good hunt I'll use up 3 of them. It's a bit like philosphers sword. Great weapon but you need to carry multiples (I have 5) for a reasonable hunt.

    I'm too impatient to use the heart. The herb box gives me over 50% more hp per sec, so I trade off eco for less standing around time.
     
  5. senderan

    senderan New Member

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    I agree fully. Herb box when maybe lvl....1.5+.

    In my opinion armor is better eco then fapping till u can use the heart efficiently. And if u want the firstaid skills its way more eco to chip those in...or heal service ofc ;) just my 2 pecs.
     
  6. KMax

    KMax Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I agree :) my basic advice as well, just make sure to pic the right armor according to damage of mob or else eco effects of armor are out the window also. Gear armor so you are taking 1.X to 5 dam per hit on average, and also if unlimited armor keep it repaired as it gets real uneco the more it gets damaged as you will be healing more on top of armor decay.
     
  7. senderan

    senderan New Member

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    Yeah, I just learned to use the armor advicer ;)
     
  8. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    I looked at what I could afford at the TOP level of my play and figured out that it was far cheaper in the long run to have decent defensive skills, not use armor at all, and use the trusty fap 5 or my uL V heal chip between kills...anything bigger then my evade and dodge can keep me outta trouble with now takes a bigger gun then I am willing to or can afford to pay for.. no sence going where I cant stay.
     
  9. KMax

    KMax Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Ya this is probably the best way but then it will take forever to get around to hunting some fun big mobs. But your method is about as eco as it could get :D
     
  10. senderan

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    Yes, and getting to your evade level at a reasonable cost, is what I want :)
     
  11. Cyborg Bill

    Cyborg Bill Well-Known Member Pro Users

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    Ohh dont think I dont grab my bear and the biggest fap I can use and go off on a shootin spree every now and again hehe.. Just because I mine mostly dont mean I dont like seeing dead flesh at my feet. After all I AM from Jurai blood and we dont be skeered a nuttin. Hell I even do team hoggalo hunts with the boys not wearin armor. Some of the most fun times in game for me. That hairy edge of will I live or die thru the first hit because they usually dont last to get a second one in IF they make it to us at all. Just like when I hang at the rig with my mates.. usually no armor when the big boys are there as what I can afford isnt enough to stop most shots from uber tiered and tricked out weapons. Standard people well I usually get to laugh a few times in Amethera when the nubs shoot 5-8 times at a naked miner drilling a claim and then say I cheat cause I stacked decent dodge from dragin drone 01's with me as I used to mine Jason center back in the day

    Mind you I WONT hunt regen mobs if I can help it for the fact they are nothing but we intend to rob you blind and you cant stop us ideas from an unimaginative desk jocky that dont know what game play is becuase he lost touch with fun and normal thinking long ago.(probably where 90% of your raping comes as a hunter).. Thats like rubbin one out with yer thumb capped on the end all that extra rob you blind just cause we devs have ZERO imagination and cant see thu our Dollar sign contact lens's mentality. You lose more skin then you can regrow back..Think about it.. Mob regens nearly full hp in under a minute or two..you on the other hand 7 to 12 minutes...Mob 5k+ health.. you 150 ish.. uhhh yup MATH FAIL.