Do U do well hunting on arkadia?

Currently hunting on arkadia feels utterly and completely pointless.

Returns: my last hunts show so terrible returns that even if I get a 200% MU on most of my stuff I still loose ped. And considering since VU now i loot even MORE ammo this is getting even worse. my latest hunting returns is in the lines of 50% 66% 72% 82% and this is from using eco gear NOT COUNTING MU for that bought gear.

On topp of that after killing maybe 500 teladon 500 kiarak etc etc etc I have recived ONE single drop that was worth the hassle and that was a gyro 22.

Today after going for a 500 ped hunt with ark-20 +beast and reciving below 500 ped back I kinda reliased im either doing something horribly wrong or the game just dont want me hunting at al. Cause honestly if it would want me to keep going it would not make me loose 250 ped on a run like this which I did. I lost more counting decay on wep and MU better.

And no I cannot change trades to make things better. My returns lately on mining has been a lill better totaling bout 75% return total crafting is bout 60-80% roughly.

Gear I use mostly is
303 + 104
Korss4 + 104
ark20+ beast

always basicly in adj pixie and 5b with adj fap for healing.

I feel this is a good setup but aparently it is not?

Can someone please help me out here I honestly love this game but if this keeps up I will likely quit shortly beeing back igm only for like 3 months after a 5 year vacation

 

must be a bad streak.. Im having about even returns on Halix.. thats including decay on my ASI - 8 R .. (the only decay I have)

 

Define even returns . What gear dps / dpp are U using?

Bad streak or not its demoralising to the point were im acctualy afraid to go out hunting again. I got the peds to cover the losses and then some but whats the point when I could just find an NPC give him some ped and get half of it back.

 

there is a issue i have with hunting that i was/am going to post some feedback about that causes my hunting results to be different from normal (normal being other planets/calypso) but my mining returns are pretty normal, my experience with mining is that it may take up to 1000 drops to see a even return so i think it really helps to track your results over time, it is often the one good run you have every now and then that has a bigger impact on your returns than you would expect by "guestimating".

 

naked, ASI - 8 R (from TT) 15 ped ammo - gives around 1.3 ped repairs.. Usually i come in with 15-17 ped loot.. small small losses or even.. finishing my 4th hunt now.. Can tell you stats from that.. - I dont fap.. If I get too far down in HP, I stop for a few minutes and do my turns on Wordfeud..

 

At least you can still play the game

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Loot is dynamic mate. I was very scare about hunting because most of stuff I get is basically TT food and the TT return is always horrible for me. I finished my Lonthtooth iron challenge with asi-30+dante and kobold+5B and fapper all the time. I didn't track all my results but from calculation I cycled at least 15k ped ammo( not counting armor and weapon decay, fapper, or markup) within 4 days on 1100 or so Longtooth. My hunting trip started miserably hunted like 100 LT without a single global, but it gets better and better as the time goes by. End up I lost around 600 ped in the whole LT grinding. My overall TT return should be well above 95%.

What I want to say is this grinding make me realize hunting return can be quite reasonable with bigger and longer runs. You should really try to hunt abit more, I know sometime it would be very discouraging but I think you just stick with it something would pop up lately to compensate your loss. But don't blame me if it doesn't

EDIT: But I can't hunt after VU so don't know what the current situation is. So it might be wrong if loot system somehow changed

 

I can vouch for the "something would pop up" .. When ark launched I grinded Caraboks (hunting and swunting) for months.. ended up in a 296 ped HOF.. Lately ive been grinding both small and big Halix pretty hardcore (as hardcore as it gets with noob budget), and not too long ago I got a 850 ped Halix stalker..

The good loots are there.. its all about patience and lots of grinding of the same mob..

 

I know well bout the 90% theory and how it works for mining im well in the range looking at my long time returns. Problem is I dont mind loosing however I have a big issue with the HUGE drops in loot U get when hunting. In mining MU can cover some of the looses U bring home in hunting it seems thats just no possible and its getting worse with the current ammo situation.

Tbh in al the time hunting / mining on ark I got the same amount of items from mining as from hunting. 1 sooto 1 good loot. Cykeld maybe 10k ped hunting or so last 2 weeks and I do keep track closely however my returns on hunting is horrible hence im looking for help . The Halix looks intresting if nothing else that will help me keep the looses down for abit untill I figure things out

 

Stats from last hunt:
Mob: Halix Young, Mature and a few stray Olds
Gear: ASI - 8 R ... no armor, no fap..
TT out in ammo: 14.75 ped
TT in, in loot (including looted ammo): 18.14 ped
Repairs: 1.35 ped

total: 18.14 minus 1.35 minus 14.75 gives a stunning 2.04 ped plus..

 

Hmm Halix might be intresting then and mostly tbh cutting down on the size of my hunts
Hmm how many hallix gets dead per run?

 

not rly sure.. takes around 10.8-11 peC to kill a young.. think I spent 4.49 ped ammo on finishing the 75 missions (started new run - 13.6 ped ammo) (was missing 42 as missions got active midhunt)

So 42 + whatever I get on the 400.. Will update you..

 

Your results mirror my own of 70 to 90%. Begining of the year I could usually loot a weapon, rifle or sword, that would nearly always push me into a tt profit but I haven't seen one in months.

 

This I personaly think will be the main thing that kills ark hunting for me.
1. MU on wepons are so high its silly one gun is like 40 ped loss even before I start to hunt
2. No item drops basicly forcing me to buy weps from supplyers and as we have like 4 of thoose well sellers market......
3. overall return seems lower on caly then on ark for me.

The halix spec if its now a mission will prolly be the thing for me loosing 1 ped per kill or so atm is not ok so might aswell just chill down completely for a few weeks and go low level hunting again no matter how boring I find it.

 

In time you will get excited about those small "good loots" on the small mobs too.. hehe..

 

do you include armour/fap decay when calculating these returns? because as far as i can tell (50 or so globals last month hunting) it isnt the TT return that is different, it is the defensive costs that are at least twice what i consider normal, i just made a thread in the feedback section of this forum about this issue.

 

I think if you are going to hunt for MU rather than swirlies then Teladon is probably a bad choice. To start with the ped cycle is going to be quite big owing to hp levels so u do have that risk of an extended down period. So smaller is generally better to even out ur rerurns. But the other issue is the MU loot which on ark is a rather small list:

- esi - rare
- weapons - significanlty less frequent than on caly
- output amp components
- native hides - relatively common.

THere are probably others.

The good news is that MU on oils generally better here than on caly.

Now the hides with good mu are mostly on the smaller critters. Hides on tough creatures tend to have high TT or high required skill to make into textures so there just isnt the demand for them.

So my advice is:
check the market for the hides that are paying well and have good turnover and target those mobs
prefer to kill lots of small hp mobs over few high hp mobs to reduce to move ur TT return closer to average.

Regards,
KikkiJikki

 

124 dead Halix on 13.6 ped ammo.. I think I looted 25 shots on top of that.. so 122 it would be for the initially bought ammo..

 

For defensive cost ya acctualy sometimes I do but when I do I tend to get so pissed that I stopp doing that .

MU: Yeah weps and ESIs are so rare its insane same with faps. Armor can drop even thouo really rare but seems the market for that is really low atm?

so bout 8 kills per ped therebout in average on ammo. Hmm this will if nothing else kill ALOT Of time .

 

Cap-303 with A104 is what I use too... but I'm trying to find a more eco setup. I'm trying to skill up to use Archon's sword, which theoretically should increase returns by 5% or so. 5% of 1000 ped is 50 ped, so it adds up.

There are some really eco Herman L setups, even after MU... but not available in every dps. Cap-202 plus A104 is one and cap-101 arctic + A103 is another.

But basically, what KJ said... big mobs are fun to hunt, but you tend to lose big over time too. MU is not enough to sustain hunting like it is in mining (plus it takes big ped card). On Ark, the only mobs which have MU are smaller ones... tho there is not a huge market for hides and with the missions, hide MU might end up going down.

 

Think I will have to nuke your brains abit more to get some more new shit up .
303 a104 is good but MU on the 303 kills that gun
ark20 is decent to been using that with a beast lately good but as always MU kills that gun .
It basicly 40 ped pure MU only at 120 130% which they are at atm. At the speed we hunt thats bout 200 ped per day pure MU to crafters that we wont be able to loot back .

And yeah I know teladon is bad but my latest hunts has not been teladon . Mainly atm I kill topps 5 teladon in a row just to c if I get into that sweet spot of 3 globals in a row when starting from there I hunt for real .

The new TT gun is abit intresting thou 80 apm considering if halix stalkers in team might be worth it