Hangar conspiracy theory 101

Just saw over on PCF the video for hangars.

Altho many will be excited about this I have a burnng in the back of my head why they are all the sudden coming back (and from the sounds and text on the post incomplete). Seeing how MA has been doing releases in a major rush with EVERYONE having major issues lately I am skeptical on the timing.

Arkadia is soon to come online we all know this. Whats the chance or probabilies of hangars being reintroduced and the tp's shut down for planetary travel in the same VU? MA / FPC-SEE KNOW they will lose a major chunk of players. Who is willing to bet this is what will happen to stem the flow of defectors by 1. Hangars being only transportation so many can't leave at once. 2. Since no interplanetary travel in TP's allowing pilots to set a massive price for the first few weeks to Arkadia thus stopping some others on lower budgets from leaveing.

I know many think I whine about alotta stuff but sorry I know how MA thinks and the really crappy way they do things. This is just one of the scenerios that popped into my head after seeing that video. I hope I am wrong in this case but very few things I have thought out regarding how MA will do things have been wrong so far.

 

From what I know the option to use interplanetary travel in TPs will still be there after the hangar VU. Thus your complaints aren't valid. Also this VU is ONLY reintroducing the BUILDINGS so the TPs must still be there. I highly doubt that we will see the the space VU before Arkadia launch. With MA's working speed that could only be possible if the launch is at the very end of the launch timeframe.


Also common sense seems to be that the pilots will be undercutting the TP fee to attract customers I have no clue why you would think otherwise. Maybe because of the "cartel" that existed before the hangars where removed... but I think there will be plenty of new hangars released over time... obviously that will be necessary on the new planets. So I think that "cartel" is going to crumble but that is only a guess ofc since I can not estimate the "influence" of certain hangar owners.

 

wow good theory but i dont think ships will work before Arkadia shows up which is sad.

 

Like mentoined above arkadia will get hangers so does rocktropia, Next Island and all the other planets. In terms there will be so much hangers that it will get difficult to fill them all. I remember once when CND had a party with live streaming and ND hired all the boats to shuttle ppl. Maybe (if spaceship are here) Arkadia can do that too ( if they remove tps).

Also too make hangers usefull they have to remove the tps at one point right ?

 

If they remove Tps when hangars come out, it will be possible for hanger owners to rise prices without any limit.
But if they will always have the 40 ped limit of the TPs travel fee, hanger travel will always stay under that sum.

 

When shuttles were used exclusively, I never left Calypso. When I thought about going, I had to :
1) get the money for the entire trip I thought I'd need.
2) find a shuttle operator that would give me a ride for a price I wanted to pay, or could afford
3) stand around for hours waiting on him/her to get a ship full since they wouldn't launch half full
4) then think if I could find someone to bring me back and save enough funds for the return trip...back then that was tough for me, now...not so much but I like the TP's because they are always there, no waiting and the prices never vary, that's just my opinion but there it is.

 

Actually when I saw that video of hangars I thought exactly same as you. Did not wanted to write anything cause I'm very negative recently, much more than healthy. But it's good to see that I'm not getting mad or something and others have same speculations.


I hope that TPs will be available to use and ships just being competition. Just wonder if the price would be 40 PED or more/less? Travel to CP and ex-CND cost less. What if MA decides that Arkadia is at further distance thus will cost more?

 

I'm hopeful we will over time have both the space travel (ship and hangar) system as well as some form of tp option, but no, I would not be surprized either if the op ideas do happen, at least temporarily. I noted such little things as the ability to 'time travel' on NI was not supposed to be through the normal tp, but that is what they did in the short term, to be changed with a later vu I assume. I also note that I trust the Arkadia crew to tell us as much as they can in the storyline itself, which with the final installment, has us all arriving in a fleet of ships, while the interplanatary teleport system is delayed lol. That may well be just a fluke, and mean nothing, either way, I'm going however they allow us to travel, so must book in advance with one of the pilots just in case

 

You forget 2 things my friend...Common sense in EU is on short demand when it comes to the money aspect... Look at LA owners with excellent mining areas stuffing them full of crappy little mission mobs that only 5 or 10 people go after on a given day. Second the pilots you thnk will be under cutting are few and far between so the "need" to undercut each other simply is not there. Half or more of the people that own hangars never used them as a buisness so many sat dormant as an investment or for perosnal / soc use. Soo of the 14 or so p[ilots I actually knew as "Working" pilots will be the ones shuttling the mass exodus should tp's be shut off or simply not available on Arkadia yet.
My off hand guess is that if TP's are down that the price to go to Arkadia will be no less then 100 ped. Only time will tell I supose but I still expect somehing not quite right from MA when Arkadia gets released simple because of their track record of past releases and what they have done to the few systems they have returned. NONE of which came back cheaper to do that is for sure.

As far as hangars are concerned I believe that they initially had to be "Built" buy finding or buying parts to make the hangars. If MA does that again in the new areas that currently do not have hangars there will be a time delay till they get built. If they release them as prebuilt and on auction like LA's then the rich will snap them up like before and at least half will be dormant as investments or jacked up again from resellers. Either way I see hangars for transportation as a massive fail on all levels.

If they open space for them to do pvp or trade routes for cargo in that scenerio then they will do well.. As transportation I see too many problems.

 

well i dont want to stand for 5 hours to get a hanger owner the tp fee and teleport should still be their at a higher price say 100 ped

or make little (L) 1 seater spacecrafts for personol use that will fix it
becuse what if a hanger owner is not oinline what if that person does not want to take me

ohh but wait the hanger owners will whine and and flame me saying that thay will lose investemnts well so what get over it you should make sure your online then to take everyone to planet

change happens like the tiering thing that changed get over it , and has for personal spaceships i could make it to event with out losing a 100ped fee for event i could go at my convenice*

 

FFS
Why would you want make something more expensive than it is now?

Keep TP charges at the same level or even cheaper than now. Then let the pilots to compete for customers with better offers!

 

If they get the chance. The fact that MA has still to develop space travel so for the time being we're stuck with the TP method.

But why develop space for only a few players, as Boost and a few of us on PCF have said L space craft are probably going to happen. They'll be expensive but if you do the trip often it may be cheaper in the long run.

 

Yes, a lot of pr only to please what - about 50 hangar owners and maybe to f all the rest of 900k players by removing TPs.
So must be more than that.
Lets hope.

 

Yups. And you could replace "hangar owners" with "supported avatars" and you got yourself a SGA

 

You are being optimistic about the number of players lol

 

Im reasonably sure that there will be more hangars available on ALL planets after the release comes...Sadly tho they will for sure be snapped up by someone wanting to make insane profit from them and will sit dormant for years as many of the currently owned hangars are. No matter how ya look at it hangars for sole transportation to even just these 4 planets will be an epic fail. When we have the 8 to 10 planets MA wants in their platform up and running it will be even worse.. Not only will pilots hold off for a full ship.. they will hold off for a full ship going to one place. Either that or riders will be planet hopping and waiting for pilots to refill ship for next planet in line.

Simply a really really bad idea to bring them back. Now for space opening up for exploration and goods trans portation that could work.

 

I really like this idea. I myself have only been playing for about a year or so, but on and off. My friends have been playing much longer than me and told me about having to wait hours for pilots to come online when they last had this and it would annoy me if there were not any online (as i only get a few hours after work to play this). However it would be a good addition to having tp's to get to other planets as long as the pilots were cheaper (as mentioned in previous posts) and to be fair on the pilots it would be better if they had more seats in their spaceships so costs overall would be slightly less and they would not have to wait for full seats every time on their spaceships just to make a small profit, and if there are a lot of players wanting to travel to another planet at a certain time then they could easily accommodate them and make more money.

I can see if they remove tp's and just add pilots onto this game before arkadia launches then, when it does launch, a lot of players would be stuck on the other planets waiting for a ride to arkadia, because the pilots wont go back down to the planets without a full ship and i doubt any player going to arkadia would want to return back to their original planet in a short time. So arkadia would end up having a lot of players not being able to access their planet.

So erm yeah, keep the tp's!

 

I like the theory that Vtols can be used to get into space. Maybe u can launch your vtol into space by paying a booster fee at a hanger(eliminating the need to wait for hanger owner). Vtols started becoming more available shortly before the hanger upgrade. We can only hope....

 

Rereading this thread now that space is actually implemented and ready to go, and the MA CEO has informed one player that the ships will be ready by Tuesday (Arkadia launch date), maybe the launch party needs to be reorganized to take place at one of the hangar locations Maybe I'm too pessimistic, maybe MA will be kind enough to leave the tps up for at least a day, but either way, which to explore first, Arkadia or Space? Just made up my mind, Arkadia. (read over at PCF and EF to see lots of space screenies and info)