When flying through 8coins and other 'owned' territory, how can I disable the notifications that come up in Main chat? I am getting ready to use a 105 finder...can I go ahead and add a level 5 amp? Is it worth it? I will have level 3 in all the relevant skills so I will be 'maxed' (I think). Thanks for any help!!!
hi Mo you cant disable the LA messsages...it is to inform you that you prolly pay tax on that LA.....i know everyone know it but MA must be safe in such things.... in mining i really would suggest to use the L finders bit longer coz you get SIB on it..Skill Increase Bonus.......you dont gt it on F 105.....and in case you are not McMillionär....stay away from amps plz.......expensive (fun?)you really have to know what you do to use them....seems you wanna be a miner ....in case you havent yet...look out for a mentor who is good in mining cya around in Quarry Milena
just talked to a experienced miner.......his meaning is..to put the 105 until you have lvl 20 in proffession....it would be more effective......just a hint
finder is fine, amping i wouldn't recommend since you are new players and new players tend to get upset in bad loot periods, especially if they spend too much too fast.
afaik 105 is maxed at lvl11 or 12 thus now you won´t search all that deep. and as i recall it theres SIB on those too.
Adjust your finder to the materials you are searching for. Most likely experimenting with different ones in different areas won't hurt much. Regarding amps, use amps when you have enough bankroll to feather swings of loot. Bad periods are worse with higher turnover. When you have a bankroll of 5k ped level2 amps are fine if you have areas of constantly good average Markup ( avg ~ 120% )
There's some good advice above. Basically, and this is true not just for finders, but all tools/weapons, if you want the best results, you need to use the tools that are appropriate for your skills, in particular the relevant profession levels. If you want good returns, don't use tools unless you've maxed them. It's also wise to avoid using tools when you're in the SIB range. Some may disagree, but I advise to wait till they're maxed. For Ark weapons, I think it's OK to use them when you're nearing the top of the SIB period, as long as you're aware they're not going to be the most efficient. But I would wait until I was maxed on a finder before using it. One reason is anecdotal; I've had bad results using finders (other than TT) before I was maxed on them. A better reason is that when you use a finder, you have absolutely no idea how efficiently it is performing. In fact, no one really knows all the factors that affect how well a finder works (or if they do, they're not sharing the secrets). It's a bit of a black box. How do you tell the difference between a bad run with an efficient finder and a good run with an inefficient finder? Good luck! By the time you've dropped enough probes to get any kind of statistics on your finder, you'll potentially have wasted hundreds or even thousands of peds on an inefficient finder, not to mention you'll have skilled up significantly and thrown off your results anyway. In contrast, with a weapon (or fap), you can see exactly how efficiently it is working since it shows you the exact damage (or heal) done every time. I couldn't find a chart to show the SIB ranges of all the modern finders, but here's one from before ore and enmatters were merged into a single finder. It doesn't show the terra master finders, since those are newer than the chart. I assume the other information (depth, SIB ranges) hasn't changed for each finder. In any case, it gives you an idea what the others mean when they say the F-105 has a big SIB range. Old SIB Chart (link). If you're below lvl 3, I would recommending sticking to the TT finder (terramaster I (L)). If you're above level 3 and you want more depth, go with something like a Ziplex Z5 or Z10, that will give you better results than an F-104 or 105 because they have tight SIB periods yet equivalent depths. I'm not sure what the SIB period on the Terramasters are, my guess is that they're all around 5 levels of SIB like the other Ark tools. So, to sum up, ignore the word "bonus" in SIB (as in yay! free bonus prize!) and think of SIB more as a penalty box that you should avoid if you can. If you're under level 5, you should still be using the TT finder or IF YOU MUST have more depth, get a Ziplex Z5 or Z10. Here on Arkadia, new miners have the advantage that all the high MU ores and enmatters (except for the rare universal ores, of course) can be found in abundance even with the shallowest TT finders... if you look in the right places. So as you continue your mining, I recommend that you obtain the deepest finder you're maxed on and put effort into mapping the continent. Finding regions rich in the higher MU ores and enmaters will be of greater benefit to your mining career than will going "deep" before you have the skills to do it efficiently (~ lvl 20). So open up Little Big Mining Log and have at it!
Thanks for the replies all! With my skills the Terra 1 and the Ziplex 5 give me an SIB of 'Not Anymore' so I assume those are too low for me. I have been running for a while with an F-103 and the SIB is still indicating 'yes' so I will stick with that until it says no. The F-105 and the Ziplex 15 are real close for me but I'm not quite there. I will hold off on using the amps for now since they are expensive, but... if I have the skills for an amp maxed out, and I wanted to do an amp run 'for dessert', would that be okay? Or am I still not getting the amp's full effect even with skills at 100%? Baa...so hard to tell without concrete data. I will take all your comments under advisement. Thanks all!
NO! You're still not thinking of SIB properly. Here's a simple chart: Code: If SIB period for a finder says: "not yet" = don't even think about it! "yes" = nope, still too high to use. "not anymore" = mmm, just right! <--- that means "maxed" or "maximum fun" So in other words, "yes" means "no" and "not anymore" means "yes". Clear now? The ONLY exception is, of course, using your very first finder (Terramaster 1) since you have no skills to start out, you have to use it while you're in the SIB period. You MAY use a finder that's in its SIB period if you don't mind losing peds. I recommending sticking with the deepest finder that says "not anymore". "Not anymore" = maxed = you can use it efficiently = your best friend. I would not recommend using any amps/enhancers/dongles/thingamabobs until you have a LOT more skills, as in like lvl 20, and only then if you know what's already under the ground and you have a BIG ped card (5k peds was mentioned above). Some will disagree and say I'm spoiling all the gambling fun with that advice. Well, that's probably true. I don't think most people who use EU to gamble are happy in the end, because... guess what, the house always wins. You can certainly use amps just for fun, but consider it cash down the drain and don't expect to get it back. Keep in mind that each global you find is just random, and deceptive... it makes you think you're on to something and in a lucky streak when in reality it's just the random numbers colliding inside a computer somewhere in Sweden. Also keep in mind that it's not big globals that make you a successful miner, it's your average return + MU. So do the things that increase your average returns and MU: use only maxed ("not anymore") finders, make maps, drop wisely and target high MU resources).
Regarding amps foremost this. Not knowing what you get in an area and using the amp blindly is not smart. Though i would not call 5k a BIG Pedcard i would say with that amount, it is sensible to amp, when you know what you are doing. When you want a testrun how amping works in general i suggest using something small once. BR
I see. Ok I was reading this article http://www.entropiadirectory.com/wiki/Comprehensive_SIB_Guide and the comments in the pics regarding the 'not anymore' status seems to contradict your chart. I guess I'm just not understanding how if the skill requirements for a finder are 100%, how can I be taking a PED penalty as your chart indicates? Not trying to spar or anything...just seeking some clarification. Thanks for all your help so far Neil.
Had a chat ingame that was helpful. * Skill increase bonus - should really be interpreted as a 'skill increase period'. During the yes period you are still not using a finder optimaly. * Skill gains can happen with finders that are in 'not anymore' status. Thanks Neil!
