Harassment of newbie at Carabok spawn near Celeste Quarry... Ruining New players Expe

Currently the best skilling mob for new players is theCarabok @ Arkadia. The spawn area at Celeste Quarry (basically twin peaks of Arkadia) is very nice and close to tp, As a result a lot of both old, and new players are there. However, a busy spot is prone to all kinds of stuff. both good and bad. This thread is about a few member of a soc harassing the newbies..
The persons involved here are:
<name removed>
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<name removed> (she didn't do mob stealing afaik but was supporting the others actions).

<soc name removed>

The original post is in PCF with pics and vids here

 

Interesting - ok tell me in pm, or here on forum if any from Shaodows of Iga was involved?
I doubt it, but would sure like to know, as we tell our members to behaive polite.
Arcadia is a nice place and I haven't seen any one acting directly rude yet.
I hope you will get to the leader of that soc and tell what you know to correct the
error

 

On behalf of Arkadia Pioneers and Arkadia Advisers...I reject this type of activity! Shame on whoever was involved in this type of harassment. Please PM me with the names of parties involved. TY.

 

There is (currently) a link to more specific details...

 

This is just sad....

 

As per our forum rules and as per discussions with the admins I have edited out the avatar names and soc name, and I have kept in contact with the OP in pms to explain. Please feel free to contact the OP in pm here if you would like to know the names involved in this dispute. I have read the discussion on the other forum, and I see the OP has decided not to file a support case, and it is disputed who did what to whom etc. If anyone sees anything like this again, with anyone being abusive or disruptive to game play, whether to newcomers or anyone else, please consider filing a support case and/or pming Cyrus here with the details. You could also share the info with any of the Arkadia Advisors and we can share the info perhaps and of course be more alert to any problem behaviors going on ourselves.

 

well it suits "that" soc as they also provide the radio station for the pirates....

 

Not to mention their "leader" has been rumored to have been banned and locked multiple times by MindArk. Aside from just being a jerk, anyway.

 

I am making it a hobby to screenshot that "Soc" harassing players..I suggest everyone screenshot what he says and does!..If we get enough support cases get him banned again. Since it is against EULA to harass players it will be only matter of time..send in them support cases with screenies.

 

What gets me is how their leader got back in, MA deleted his original account when they banned him, yet they have allowed this alt to stay.

He has 4 socs and I get the feeling this is an attempt by him to force newbies to join one of them, as in join us or you'll get no sweat.

IMHO the socs should be disbanded and the leaders permanently banned

 

I think people are reading too much into this event. Soc leader (not the-one-who-is-reviled) said the two people who actually did the ks are no longer in the society. And come on people, a couple of incidents of kill-stealing are not exactly huge cases of harrassment.

Time to move on...

 

More or less fresh screenies of: Politenes and leak of politeness.
I was doing a hunting guide for my soc and ran into a interesting guy.
Names have been deleted as I didn't ask for permission to publish.
But feel free to read more on: http://tengu.dk/guides/hunt.html#uw

 

Not really cool to necro this thread to promote ur website.
Also is first I heard of a 2 circle rule. I often hunt near other players without tagging their mobs or cramping their style. Your posted example doesnt show anyone being rude as far as I am concerned.

 

Hi Kikki

Not really cool to necro this thread to promote ur website.
(Looked 'necro'(Greek prefix meaning death.) up - I'm not)
The link serves as an example - a referal to text regarding
the essence of this thread: Haressment of a newbie etc. and
not a commercial. Then I would have added a nice picture of
our website along with the link

Also is first I heard of a 2 circle rule.
So KikkiJikki? As a skilled hunter you learned/read something
new - good The 2 circle rule is known among many hunters.
If you wish to follow it, or not, is up to you.

I often hunt near other players without tagging their mobs or
cramping their style.
Well, I guess that would be ok. As long you don't drag any
attention to the other players mobs and mobs come for you?

Your posted example doesnt show anyone being rude as far as
I am concerned.
Ah, ok. No there is not a video, but try and read the text again
please. The: 'The Unwritten Rule - Yet a good example' - where
"A" and I have a short conversation? A was afraid of me shooting
his mobs. Then please read: 'The Unwritten Rule - Bad example'.
Here a guy, called "B" came shooting the mob A was sweating.
That is NOT! nice. When A and I told him ... yes you can read for
your self. Here you have the link again, and it is NOT to promote
our website http://tengu.dk/guides/hunt.html#uw

Arkadia seems to be populated by nice and polite players. If it is
becourse the planet is relative new, I cant' say. So far I've meet
very few rude people. I like it to stay that way.
I do what I can to encourage my soc to act polite as well. And I
do belive they act polite. The example is from our hunting guide,
it serves as a "commecial" in only one way, to spred knowledge
of the 2 circles rule. It is not possible to order players to follow
this, but we can hope for understanding and future polite players.

Kind regards
Tengu

 

Lol a month later...

With respect it's not a "rule" I would ever consider following. I think hunters can get along fine without it. The main thing is to try not to mobsteal or to aggro mobs onto other players.

I re-read your "bad example". IMO player B did nothing wrong except disagree with you. But then I wasn't there.

Regards,
KikkiJikki

 

hmm I never ever heard of this rule either, and to me it's a sucky rule anyway as I personally dont want to be even 200m close to someone else when hunting.
So when I run into someone entering "MY" space I usually ask which direction they intend to go and move the other way, but if they are deaf I usually just stop and see where they go or jump away pissed off

Anyway never ever heard of this so called rule, and asked really longtime players in soc too and never heard of it either, so seems like it's a "soc rule". And we didn't have the same radar we do now before so anyway must be a recent rule in your soc

 

Lol @Tengu: it is so stupid to post a "tutorial" about a rule that only you and your friends believe is a rule. In all my playing time I never even hear dsomeone asking about this and NEVER EVER saw someone even complaining about this. Never ever I saw a discussion when I was out hunting, never ever a discpl asked me, never ever someone in soc was asking or discussion or complaining about this rule. THis "unwritten rule" exists only in your wishes.

And I did a lot hunting, both in empty and crwoded areas.

This shows very well, that YOU are harrassing ppl, you try to enforce a stupid rule, that only you want to apply and nobody else.

So stop naming others for beeing bad!
I assume, you send reports to MA Support about "bad players". Maybe you don#t do that, but I believe, you do.
So I just reported your Website to MA Support.
In case, you Report others for coming in your circle, they hopefully recognize your webpage now and understand, what you try to do and now ignore any complain you send.

In case you do not send reports about other Players to MA, then my Report will not have any effect.

Still it's a SHAME what you do, it gives new Players the 2nd worst experience they can get in a game. You harm the new players, with this you harm everyone who believes in Arkadia and in the Entropia concept.

U-N-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E...

// Edit:
I made this Statement as a mentor, a long time hunter, a high depositter, but not as an Arkadian Advisor. This is just my eperience and my statement, it has no offical meaning.

 

Serious guys...we dont need any rules in that case here....I cant expect that people follow MY rules...

all what we need is a bit common sense to act and react with eachothers......be nice, be mature....


Edit:
"it's rude to hunt withing 2 circles of another player "

@ Tengu.....You never should hunt Atrox or other populär mobs........

 

Lets calm down a touch and make sure we keep this civil folks please. I don't personally as a hunter follow any 'rule' either, to each his own. I do know that everyone is different though, some refuse to hunt until there are no GDs on radar at all, some get mad about it if you do come onto radar and stay to hunt, some don't mind at all and so on. It truly is personal preference as far as I see it. Extreme behaviors can at times be seen as harrassment of course, and again, personal choice about reporting something seen as that by the individuals involved. I've never stressed about it much myself, as clearly a lot of this is also related to the zillions of different loot theories out there.

Anyway, good discussion, just please remember to tone down any aggression or heated responses, we are different here remember

 

I think there is nobody here upset about Tengu's hunting preference. But his website clearly shows he is running around Arkadia telling people that his preference is a "RULE" that they need to follow, even those not in his soc are supposed to follow his soc rule. In my short four years of playing I never heard this rule. I personally think it is a good idea to attempt to be kind and courteous to your fellow players, but if someone is hunting right next to me I really could care less as long as they don't shoot the mob I am shooting. If everyone followed this so called rule, then i guess some of the popular mobs have a cap on the number of people allowed to hunt them. So Tengu, my advice to you is don't go to the migrations and other popular events, they will already be full and you will have to break your hunting rule to participated.