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Important! "BluePrint Bonanza" Event!

Discussion in 'Company Events' started by Cyrus, Sep 21, 2011.

  1. starfinder

    starfinder Member

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    I have to "specify which items" are comming from arkadia bp's .. new items will have no "BP location" .. so until I assign new items.. they will not be in the list...

    :)
     
  2. Boardian Chilix

    Boardian Chilix Active Member Pro Users

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    Very bad changing rules during an event , its a shame
     
  3. Lucky_A

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    Is not fair for every1 - I agree, but they had to do somethin ... whole thing was basically on ice for more than 24h ... I'd say is a lesson learned for future
     
  4. AttacKat

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    While it is not a good idea to change rules in the middle of an event, but I do not see it is wrong to make the rules easier for people to win. After all, don't you guys rather have better chances to win then less chances?

    jc
     
  5. Boardian Chilix

    Boardian Chilix Active Member Pro Users

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    and what do i have to do now after days preaparing and expending ks of peds here crafting for L bps and preparing mys strategy.
    do i have to trust them to not change again the rules? or how can i know now its not rigged? can i sleep? so i dont wake up and find changed the rules again, next day i may woke up may not be BP to give
    makes me want to pop the globals now and leave
     
  6. Lucky_A

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    That's what I did Chilix, popped all remaining globs now ... but was my choice to do so and I don't blame the A-Team, they had to take some decissions and they did, and is impossible to please every1 when u do something like that

    Starfinder, please add Canis Gloves to the list ...
     
  7. starfinder

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    The point of the event was to get some arkadia bp's out into the public. The old rules with 175 PED globals, and a list so you could wait until the bp you wanted was up for graps simply dident put enough bp's ingame fast enough.

    So, to "deal with" the avatar speculating in when they wanted to craft - the list was reshuffled and made hidden.
    But, so as to people would not have to spend a lot of PEDs crafting to get the BP they wanted, the entry value for global was lowered to almost half of what it was.

    Without being a crafter, I do believe this is a fair setup.

    But yes.. I can see why people who has been "saving cash for when the BP they wanted was next" is mad. Before thy could have all the other players craft at their normal pace, then when the bp they wanted was up next.. they could go all out for 10 min, and win it.

    This is more fair - - craft at "your level/wallet.. and perhaps you will walk off with a nice BP"... (again, im not a crafter)..
     
  8. starfinder

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    Done.
    Also, please - this should almost be in the Op... but.. if you global on an item that is not "specified to be on arkadia"... and then someone else globals on an item that IS specified to be on arkadia.. then he will get BP X.. accordingly to the list...

    When I then add your item to "Arkadia bp's".. (and you got the global before the other guy got his).. he will be bumped one slot down...

    (I hope that makse sense.. and that you guys understand that this is likely to occur when so many new items are added to arkadia)

    If you global is not on the list .. PM, smoke signal, post here, send PM on ET.. and i will fix it.. but this also means that your BP may change if you hit F5 on the page right after you got your global.. and then again 20 min later (when I have added the missing item from arkadia)...

    If you guys feel like forcing me to stay up all night, I will hear Cyrus/David if I can get a complete list of ALL arkadia items.. and manually enter all of them.. the some 2000 items into the database...

    If you think im also allowed to sleep once in a while.. this is sadly how its going to be done for now... I hope you will let me sleep from time to time :)
     
  9. Lucky_A

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    Thank you Starfinder.

    Now I'm done - Ark has shown me the way : I'll be a great armour crafter :cool:
     
  10. Amber Knightley

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    Just to let you know, I found out about the changes through Twitter o_O
     
  11. Boardian Chilix

    Boardian Chilix Active Member Pro Users

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    for me changing the rules during an ongoing event is bad they could had made a new one
    i have to trust you and other wont tell the new distribution of bps ( srry for my tinfoil hat )
    imo if they wanted to speed it up they should had given an extra incentive ( would had been a better idea ), not changing already done rules and with prices already given
    i just feel ripped
     
  12. MG Mighty

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    With this part I agree

    With this I don't

    The actual list should be public available but encripted so that people knew that the attribution of prizes wasn't hand picked to favour avatar X over the others.
    (the key to unencript each entry would be in the hands of somebody trustworthy to the developer team (best yet would be a developer, or to have a page give hints on the ingredients that a blueprint that was next on the 5 of the list contained) and revealed once the trigger happened.

    Example:

    Buzz Erik Lightyear
    Oiled Corria Boards Weld filament Blueprint
    Caused some bad comments among my friends.
     
  13. starfinder

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    Ok. So, you want me to make an encrypted list you can download - and then once the event is over, I give out the key?
    Works for me...

    Will look into how to encrypt it so it isent just a google search away to decrypt it ("hack program X encryption")...



    Edit... it seems winrar is "ok" as long as its a huge password... ill just make it like 50 char long :)

    HEre's the image to be encrypted:
    http://www.entropiatracker.com/images/bplist.png (ofc.. in a "size so you cant read the list)
     
  14. Boardian Chilix

    Boardian Chilix Active Member Pro Users

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    i just find hard to trust ppl who breake the rules
    how do i know you dont send the list to a friend? trust? or well you drop it down the drain
     
  15. starfinder

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    How do you trust Arkadie dosent do the same.. or MindArk.. ?

    Also.. for starters.. ive signed an NDA with Arkadia.. andMindArk saying that I can not speak of ANYTHING I might know ahead of other ppl due to my position with ET.

    The NDA with Arkadia is actually expired (it was before they launched I needed to know some stuff about arkadia to have ET ready)... But the NDA i signed with MindArk for them to approve Entropia Tracker is still valid, and that states I can NOT release any information which is not already avalible - which this is not.

    So, if I were to release this list - I would risk my account and the 4 years I have worked on ET.. Do you think I would do that?
     
  16. Boardian Chilix

    Boardian Chilix Active Member Pro Users

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    i just know that i bought lotery tickets in arkadia for event and now find my odds changed
    what does have MA to do here?
    what i know is that Ma when changed rules compensated ppl involved as unL quads fiasco
    would ppl who got lower than 175 peds globals and over 100 be compesated?
    would ppl who had already bp had a chance to get a better one?
    what abaut ppl who can only log on weekends, and pbb wont have a chance to participate now?
    ... so on
     
  17. Nitrosomonas

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    I don't want to accuse you of anything, I'm just wondering: are you allowed to participate? Can you win bp's?
    Because even though you can't tell anyone you do know when which bp's are gonna drop. yes?
     
  18. starfinder

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    Yes. I have access to the database with the list in.

    Its a bit of a void question, because if you look at my tracker page - ive got one global crafting... ever..
    I dont craft - so IF i were to participate, then it would be fishy...

    Long story short - we havent discussed if I should be able to participate or not, but common sense says I can not.. and im not a crafter.. so.. im not going to.. :)

    However.. I will insert fake globals into the database for PEDs.. (jk Boardian - take off the foil hat please)... :)
     
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  19. Boardian Chilix

    Boardian Chilix Active Member Pro Users

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    after my rant
    life goes so time to move on
    now bring me the arkadia map to tracker and i will forgive you ;)
    btw GZ to the winners so far
     
  20. MG Mighty

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    Thank you for giving my concerns some thought.
    The image seems very legit (meaning: it's still "guessable" and compatible with previous data already known)
    (I would prefer the rar file of the image encrypted).

    About rar encrypting why 50 char long ? (just some unusual charaters like: ═╬ð
    and 12 will be more than enough from what I read a few year ago (I tried to search if there was a backdoor, but didn't find anything related which gave me any hint of such thing) in the time available it wouldn't be breakable.

    (═╬ð is just 3 char and most rar password craker software won't find it).

    (if you know of security holes in rar encryption I sure would love to know about it)